De Mattei: Pope Francis and his “Lutheran turning point”

Rorate Caeli ^ | November 8, 2017 | Roberto de Mattei

[ebb tide]

Who was the last valid pope according to you, Daniel?

[daniel1212]

Perhaps too much Mormon history has crept into this thread. The Quorum of Twelve ALWAYS votes unanimously!

But their "pope" cannot err when seeing/hearing things in the forest and thus starting another "one true church:

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I *KNEW* that I could never be good enough to make it. Only the saints did that and I new I sinned far too much to qualify.

And now, buy the sacrifice of Christ, you are a saint.

[daniel1212]

Who was the last valid pope according to you, Daniel?

Let's see, when I left Rome for life i think it was JP2. Anyway, for RCs today it is Francis, while the deflected question was who was was the last valid pope according to you? No more avoidance please.

[metmom]

Can’t you answer a simple question put to you?

Ever?

[metmom]

That’s right!

I am the righteousness of God in Christ.

(2 Corinthians 5)

[metmom]

That’s got nothing to do with you not answering the question.

Why aren’t you answering it?

[Mark17]

I don’t remember who the pope was, when I left the Catholic Church in 1970. Now, I can claim invincible knowledge, as I have 💯% sssurance of salvation. If others don’t, that’s on them. It’s not my problem. 😀😆😄

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Thanks be to God for His indescribable Gift!

[daniel1212]

The concept of a Heavenly Mother has a profound psychological appeal, and while not official doctrine, this is seen in Mormonism as well.

Mormon Heavenly Mother featured in Deseret Book best-seller

...What was exciting to us was that maybe a year after we had turned in our manuscript for the book, the church published an essay on Heavenly Mother on their website. And in that essay they say it is our “cherished doctrine” that we have Heavenly Mother....

She is a goddess in might and dignity. And to consider her otherwise, I think, is disrespectful to Her." - http://religionnews.com/2016/09/13/mormon-heavenly-mother-featured-in-deseret-book-bestseller/

Hmm. Sounds familiar.

[caww]

They wanted to be like Rome......they loved the priestly robes of the court and all the finery.....as well the order of the court....so they copied it.

[metmom]

There cannot be any legitimate pope if the Holy Spirit doesn’t guide in the selection process.

That would put it at zero since the office of pope is never mentioned in Scripture and there are no guidelines or instructions given in Scripture concerning said alleged office.

[Luircin]

And here I thought you were shaking the dust off your feet.

Which was a command given only to the ones Jesus sent out during his earthly ministry, so you misued it anyways.

[Arthur McGowan]

Wow. The pustules are bursting all over this thread. All the familiar fountains of demonic hate.

[Elsie]

As a faithful Catholic, I make explicitly clear what my problems are with Jorge Bergoglio.

In all of the excitement I've kinda lost count.

Could you please repeat the problems?

Are they RELIGIOUS?
or...
are they POLITICAL?

[Elsie]

Is that a compliment or an insult?

Only TWO choices again?

It's an observation.

[Arthur McGowan]

I’m not going to waste my time with you, except to point out that every statement you just made is a lie. Any third party reading this can find your lies contradicted in any Catholic catechism.

[Elsie]

Where and when did any of these vicious anti-Catholics acquire a degree in Canon Law?

Where and when did any of these devious EVIL Cardinals acquire a passing grade in their catechism class?

[Elsie]

The full actual meaning and practical import of canons is knowable only with the aid of those properly trained.

You've got to be taught,
before it's too late...