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To: Mrs. Don-o; Bodleian_Girl; Syncro
Having grace does not mean being sinless.

On the contrary, it is definitive proof of the sinful state of the person on whom it was given.

If Mary had not sinned, she COULD NOT HAVE experienced God's grace. Grace is not needed without sin.

It's only in the presence of sin where grace kicks in.

Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds.

Romans 5:20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,

278 posted on 08/06/2017 2:14:40 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

It appears that having lots of Grace like Mary means there must have been lots of sin!

Oops!


287 posted on 08/06/2017 4:40:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; Bodleian_Girl; Syncro
Having grace does not mean being sinless.

It does in the Catholic world-view when talking about the "infusion" of grace versus the "imputation" of righteousness. It's the soul gas tank example I gave a number of days ago. Gotta keep that tank on FULL in order to make it to heaven. Mortal sins empty the tank like it sprang a leak and only confession and penance WITH good works can bring it back to nearly full (seeing as RCs believe most people will have to go through Purgatory first to top off the tank). I can't understand why it doesn't register that we are saved because of CHRIST'S righteousness and not our own - which IS the Biblical view.

332 posted on 08/06/2017 7:30:39 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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