Venezuelan Bishops Pray to Virgin Mary to Free the Country from the ‘Claws of Communism’

Breitbart ^ | 2 Aug 2017 | Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.

[detective]

The Venezuelan Episcopal Conference (CEV) has publicly invoked the intercession of the Virgin Mary to free the nation “from the claws of communism,” in a clear reference to the regime of President Nicolás Maduro.

“Blessed Virgin, Mother of Coromoto, heavenly Patron of Venezuela, free our country from the claws of communism and socialism,” the CEV posted on Twitter this Sunday, complete with an image of Santa Maria and a Venezuelan flag.

[ravenwolf]

Ravenwolf, I will put it to you straightforwardly. ‘Adelphos,’ was a very common, much-used word.

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You are right, it was not used as cousin but it was used for brethren and it was used for kinsman which could be anything.

Genesis13
8 And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be brethren.

They were not brothers but Lot was a nephew.

Also Mary the wife of Cleophas

Matthew 27:56

56 among whom were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.

It never mentions Virgin Mary being the mother of these two
but it does mention Mary the wife of Cleophas being their mother.

af_vet_1981 I believe we are getting too tied up with definitions.

[ravenwolf]

‘Adelphos,’ is, as you mentioned, also used to describe spiritual brothers—i.e.: brothers in Christ. -------------------------------------------------------- Also אָח or ach means brother but it also means kinsman, so if you want to tell some one that you had a visit from some kin you could use that word but if you wanted to let some one know that a cousin visited you you would use a different word. Hebrew was translated into Greek but it would still mean the same to the Jews, אָח translated to Adelphos would still mean kin.

[ravenwolf]

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

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Yeah, put a hundred dollar bill in my hand and then run to the top of the hill when you get ready to go and i am going to resurrect you.

[ravenwolf]

There are more verses in this psalm...

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1 Save me, O God,
for the waters have come up to my neck.
2 I sink in the miry depths,
where there is no foothold.
I have come into the deep waters;
the floods engulf me.
3 I am worn out calling for help;
my throat is parched.
My eyes fail,
looking for my God.
4 Those who hate me without reason
outnumber the hairs of my head;
many are my enemies without cause,
those who seek to destroy me.
I am forced to restore
what I did not steal.

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You really believe that fits the Jesus we read about in the NT?

[Fantasywriter]

The OT was written in Hebrew. OT references do not pertain to the discussion because the NT was written in Koine Greek. Iow, the fact that the OT didn’t use the word, ‘anepsios,’ is irrelevant. ‘Anepsios,’ isn’t Hebrew.

No idea what point is being made re the Matthew passage. Neither the word, ‘adelphos,’ nor ‘anepsios,’ occurs in that reference.

Matthew 27:

56 Among them was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.

[ravenwolf]

Why do you continue to kick against the goads?

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Why are you doing the same? do you understand that there are foster brothers and step brothers, not to mention brothers also can mean kinsmen.

Also do you choose to just ignore the fact that at least two of the ones called the brothers of Jesus has a different mother, the one called the wife of Clopas?

I would think that since there is no mention of Mary being the mother of any of Jesus`s so called brothers that some of these other mothers sons being the same names would get some attention.

Is paying attention too expensive?.

[Fantasywriter]

The NT was not translated from Hebrew. It was written in Greek, and the word choice was guided/God-breathed by the Holy Spirit.

[Fantasywriter]

‘to mention brothers also can mean kinsmen.’

You’re confusing Greek and Hebrew. Greek has a separate, precise word for ‘kinsman,’ - ‘suggenes.’

[Fantasywriter]

Here are dozens of translations of Matthew 27:56. Not a single one of them tracks with the passage you posted:

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2027%3A56

[Resettozero]

Thanks for the response. Kick away then.

[Fantasywriter]

Please disregard post 1,049. I misread post 1,041. Sorry.

[Elsie]

Few others seem to have noticed.

I didn't.

Are those known as diffraction rings?

[Elsie]

This is a falsehood;

I know; but Rome still teaches that Mary was sinless.

Not much I can do about it.

[Elsie]

Simply disgraceful.

I know; but Catholics worldwide do it.

[Elsie]

Sorry, i do not buy that.

GOD's 'only' begotten Son.

Not Mary's only begotten.

I think there is a difference between born and first born.

I wonder what it is?

[Elsie]

You really believe that fits the Jesus we read about in the NT?

What does Rome say about it??

[af_vet_1981]

The scripture shows Mary also has an (ἀδελφὴ, adelphé: sister) traditionally a relative of some kind (cousin or sister-in-law) for an additional example of the usage of brother or sister in the extended sense you mentioned.

[af_vet_1981]

The scripture shows Mary also has an (ἀδελφὴ, adelphé: sister) traditionally a relative of some kind (cousin or sister-in-law) for an additional example of the usage of brother or sister in the extended sense you mentioned.

[Elsie]

I would think that since there is no mention of Mary being the mother of any of Jesus`s so called brothers

Catholicism and it's followers are a wee selective on what is 'believed about Mary' that has no mention ANYWHERE in Scripture!

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The way it's written:

 

Galatians 4:4-5

But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, ⁵ to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.

 

The way Rome teaches it:

 

Galatians 4:4-5

But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a....

 

Co-Redemptrix, 
Ark of the Covenant,

Beloved daughter of the Father,
Cause of Our Joy,

Cause of our Salvation ,
Comfort of the Afflicted,
Destroyer of Heresy,
Ever-virgin ,
Favoured Daughter of the Father,
Gate of Heaven,
God-bearer,
Health of the Sick,
Help of Christians,
Holy Mary,
Holy Mother of God,
Holy Virgin of Virgins,
House of Gold,
Joy of the Just,
Majesty,
Mirror of Justice,
Morning Star,
Most Holy,
Mother Admirable,
Mother Inviolate,
Mother Most Amiable,
Mother Most Chaste,
Mother Most Pure,
Mother of Christ,
Mother of Divine Grace,
Mother of God,
Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Mercy,
Mother of Orphans,
Mother of Our Creator,
Mother of Our Redeemer,
Mother of Sorrows,
Mother of the Church,
Mother of the Poor,
Mother of the Word,

Mother of the Word Incarnate,
Mother Thrice Admirable,
Mother Undefiled,
Mystical Rose,
Nova Eva (the New Eve),
Our Lady of Compassion,
Our Lady of Confidence,
Our Lady of Victory,
Our Lady, Star of the Sea,
Our Mother of Perpetual Help,
Queen Assumed Into Heaven,
Queen Conceived Without Original Sin,
Queen of All Saints,
Queen of Angels,
Queen of Apostles,
Queen of Confessors,
Queen of Families,
Queen of Heaven,
Queen of Martyrs,
Queen of Patriarchs,
Queen of Peace,
Queen of Prophets,
Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Queen of Virgins,
Ravisher of Hearts,
Refuge of Sinners,
Seat of Wisdom,
She Who Shows the Way,
Singular Vessel of Devotion,
Spiritual Vessel,

Spouse of the Holy Spirit,

sovereign Mistress of the Angels,   <A new one!
Tabernacle of the Lord,

Temple of the Holy Spirit,
Temple of the Most Holy Trinity,
Throne of Wisdom,
Tower of David,
Tower of Ivory,
Treasure House of God's Graces,
Untier of Knots,
Vessel of Honor,
Virgin God-bearer,
Virgin Most Faithful,
Virgin Most Merciful,
Virgin Most Powerful,
Virgin Most Prudent,
Virgin Most Renowned,
Virgin Most Venerable

Virgin of virgins,                           born under the law, ⁵ to HELP redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship; sooner or later; and not spend TOO much time in Purgatory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mrs. Don-o]

I’m talking about the untruths against Catholics.

There, you did it again.