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To: Mark17
Works, works, works ...

These are the works. Notice the Messiah does not ask who believed in Him. Calvinism is not the criteria.



When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verses thirty one to forty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

206 posted on 04/13/2017 8:31:28 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; metmom; boatbums; MHGinTN

Hey bro, I don’t read blue posts. Try again.


209 posted on 04/13/2017 8:47:13 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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To: af_vet_1981; Mark17
Works, works, works ... These are the works. Notice the Messiah does not ask who believed in Him. Calvinism is not the criteria.

No, no, no. I wonder if you stop to consider a few points about that passage of Jesus' words?

Point 1: Those being judged were ALREADY either sheep or goats. The judgment wasn't to turn them into one or the other but to separate them.

Point 2: This final judgment takes place AFTER the Tribulation. The Judgment seat of Christ has already happened.

Point 3: Those who were the "sheep" didn't knowingly do their good works for those who were hungry, thirsty, naked, sick or imprisoned - they were the natural actions of spirit-led believers who lived holy, obedient lives out of gratitude for God's grace.

Point 4: Those who were the "goats" didn't knowingly NOT minister to the lowly. They treated everyone the same because their hearts were evil and unregenerated by the Holy Spirit. They did not accept the grace of God. They probably were like that other group Jesus spoke about in Matthew 7 who on the day of judgment wailed, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?", and to whom Jesus said, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.". They LACKED saving faith and the works they did were in their own power to establish their own righteousness instead of receiving the righteousness of Christ which is by faith.

The Messiah didn't have to ask who believed in Him, He already knew. I marvel when people quote passages such as this as if it contradicts the multitude of verses that say we are saved by grace through faith and not by works. Scripture doesn't contradict itself - one just needs to read what God says in context and in view of the rest of Divinely-revealed Scripture.

213 posted on 04/13/2017 9:21:29 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: af_vet_1981
...Come, ye blessed of my Father, ...

Jesus; can you tell us what it means to be blessed?


Matthew 22  New International Version (NIV)

The Parable of the Wedding Banquet

1 Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.

“Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’

“But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.

“Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ 10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.

11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 12 He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.

13 “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”

237 posted on 04/14/2017 4:55:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
These are the works. Notice the Messiah does not ask who believed in Him. Calvinism is not the criteria.

Neither is Catholicism.

Besides, your poor Bible interpretation is showing.

That's not the judgment of the saved, those who believe.

Those who are saved are already judged.

These are the words of Jesus.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

I believe them.

Do you?

240 posted on 04/14/2017 5:00:11 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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