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1 posted on 04/09/2017 4:10:22 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 04/09/2017 4:10:44 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Once upon a time long, long ago, a time very far, far, away, I was a service technician for pipe organs, the whole—gamut—Aeolian-Skinner, Moller, Casavant Freres, etc.

The one thing I learned is that every Church organist is a homosexual. Every single one.

If you need a church organist, just advertise in the homosexual publications. They will come-a-knockin faster than you can say "gerbil".

3 posted on 04/09/2017 4:18:11 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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“A full keyboard organ”, with all the ‘stops’, requires an organized mind, a penchant for loving hard work (playing a footpedal gigue isn’t easy), and no headphone jack.

Look at today’s under 40 folks, wunderkinde not included, and see if they fit this pigeonhole.


6 posted on 04/09/2017 4:49:08 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Back in the early 1950’s, Leon Russell started playing piano and organ by the age of 6, at his local Presbyterian Church. By the time he was 10, he left to play at the Pentecostal Church, because their music was more lively and fun. He said in an interview once, that the Presbyterian Church, found another 6 year old to take his place.


8 posted on 04/09/2017 5:04:59 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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At our old church (small) the organist was VERY talented and would do improvisions on the pieces. One time I asked him about it, and he said how he worked for days, hours and hours on it, rewriting the entire piece.

A few years later after a very impressive adaptation I asked how long he had spent on re-writing it. He explained how he had gone someplace to learn “jazz” and improv music. Now all he did was he just had a few ideas in his head that he practiced the main ideas the night before, and then just “did it”. He laughed to think about how he used to do them!


10 posted on 04/09/2017 5:13:34 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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My mother was a church organist for our (then) small town church in Mason, Ohio...for 45+ years. When I was a little girl,
I used to sit next to her on the organ bench while she was playing. My Mom passed away 2 years ago. I still, get a tear in my eye when I hear the first strike of a chord on the organ at church every Sunday.


11 posted on 04/09/2017 5:15:12 AM PDT by MasonGal
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Curious. America's schools of music have always been full of young people, most of whom are hopeful would-be professional musicians, but most of whom also realize the odds are greatly against them ever making a living in performance. At some point, they face the grim decision of either switching majors or settling for being a middle school music teacher and maybe giving lessons on the side. Church gigs were a major tranche of real, paying jobs in the field. I always assumed that most church organists were converted pianists who wanted to stay in music performance.

What has changed now? Are incumbents staying on longer than they used to, thus depriving newcomers of opportunities? Has music school enrollment declined precipitously? The general inflation in college tuition costs is turning colleges more and more into vocational education. Music could be among the traditional disciplines affected.

15 posted on 04/09/2017 5:28:47 AM PDT by sphinx
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Posting, because this thread demands it.

Garden of Eden, by I. Ron Butterfly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qSCUhqsy4Nk


25 posted on 04/09/2017 6:03:27 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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This is a fantastic show:

http://www.ultimaterestorations.com/midmer-losh/


27 posted on 04/09/2017 6:25:47 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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If you want mastery in a specialized skill, you cannot expect to harvest existing talent indefinitely. You have to train people for it.

The American Guild of Organists, in New York, has some 25,000 members, but few of them are active organists.

So what is needed is a new college for organists, subdivided into four parts: the organ as instruments (different kinds), maintaining and tuning of organs, organ performance, and historical clerical organ music.

The college should offer at least four “degrees”, the simplest of which is electronic organ and sectarian organ music and hymn and religious service performance.

Next would be organ and choir. A more traditional pipe organ layout with *manuals* (keyboards), pedals and stops.

Third would be the creation, maintenance and tuning degree.

And Fourth would be massive pipe organ and all that entails.


39 posted on 04/09/2017 7:56:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)
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Forget an organist. I’m dying to find a church.


45 posted on 04/09/2017 9:12:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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At my parish, the vigil mass for Sundays and 3 of the 4 midimorning Sunday masses, there is an adult choir lead by a wonderful orgin/piano playing music director. The early morning mass for Sunday there an adult guitar music mass. One Sunday at midmorning there is a childrens and families Sunday mass and the guitar and piano is played.


47 posted on 04/09/2017 10:11:21 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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Some organs are more impressive than others.

Enlarged organ.

50 posted on 04/09/2017 10:28:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Deportation mayhem is just birthing pains for a new America.)
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63 posted on 04/09/2017 1:51:51 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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A positive story:

http://www.smarymag.org/uploads/docs/bulletins/20160724.pdf

http://www.smarymag.org/liturgy-music


67 posted on 04/09/2017 2:33:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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Here is a hymn played on an church organ with the parishioners participating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlwtgaQZYDI


70 posted on 04/09/2017 3:02:32 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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I am not a homosexual, but I have been a church organist on and off for over thirty years, currently at a church in Chicago, where I have been for 23 years. Over 50 years ago, when I was 9, my parents asked if I was interested in taking music lessons, specifically organ lesson, probably because they would rather hear that than drums, three-chord rock ‘n’ roll, etc. I said yes to organ lessons and also began learning the trumpet in school at the same time.

At that time, organ and piano stores were very common, as were places that offered lessons. It was common for people to have these instruments in their homes. None of those are at all common these days. But learning to play the organ at home provided a gateway for my becoming a church organist. When I was 16 or 17, our church organist wanted to retire, so I took over, and played and worked with the choir for a number of years. The other gateway was provided when I was brought up in church and learned to love the services to appreciate the traditional hymnody and instrumental music played on the organ. These days, if a church has more contemporary worship and a worship band, and the closest thing to an organ is an electronic keyboard (which is to say, not close at all) then it is unlikely to spawn new church organists. It doesn’t even need to.

I am not a professional-grade organist, but I am competent at it. I do it because it enjoy it. God has given me this gift, and being an organist is a way I can give back.

In addition to not being a homosexual, the other odd thing about me is that I am the organist in an Orthodox Church. Orthodox Churches traditionally do not use musical instruments of any kind, but some time early in the last century, some Greek churches in America decided to westernize and add an organ. When I began at this church, I had to learn not only the music, but also had to know the Divine Liturgy by heart, and be able to follow a language foreign to me. I won’t say I’m irreplaceable, but the church is going to have some problems finding someone new when my old hands are no longer fit for the keyboards.


73 posted on 04/09/2017 4:09:05 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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I hate organ music - I find it depressing. What’s that Emily Dickenson verse? “There’s a certain slant of light, On winter afternoons, That oppresses, like the weight. Of cathedral tunes.”


75 posted on 04/09/2017 5:39:05 PM PDT by Zirondelle ("disce aut discede")
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Organists are one of the reasons that churches are struggling to find members. The other reason is the pretend Peter Paul and Mary guitar players which remain a pestilence from Vatican II and the nonsense it gave us.

Go to a seeker church and learn why a church band matters.


82 posted on 04/10/2017 4:31:45 AM PDT by anton
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