Can I lose My Salvation?

Westside Christian Fellowshihp ^ | Jan 12, 2017 | Shane Idleman

[metmom]

A common question for many is, “Can I lose my salvation?” I’ve heard both sides of the argument, and only God truly knows a person’s heart, but I can share a few thoughts. The reason there is a debate is because the Scriptures teach that salvation is a gift from God that cannot be earned, but they also offer warnings about falling away. There should be a healthy tension between God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility. This issue should not create a spirit of division, elitism, or theological superiority.

One school of thought suggests that salvation cannot be lost, as in losing your car keys, but that it can be left, as in walking away from it. This may be why Jesus spoke of the man who said in his heart “my master delays His coming; therefore, I will turn from living a godly life”. When the master returned unexpectedly, the servant was banished because he chose to turn from what he knew to be right.

In another passage, Jesus said, “You have left your first love,” when speaking to the church in Ephesus (Revelation 2:4). James 5:19-20 adds, if anyone wanders from the truth and someone turns him back, a soul is saved from death. If anything, these Scriptures, and many more, reinforce the fact that we have certain responsibilities.

[Elsie]

We're not saved until we're in the boat.

Well; our name gets written in the Book of Life.

Your name CAN get ERASED from it!

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Exodus 32:32-33
But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.” 

But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.

[Elsie]

Indeed!

[Elsie]

And the saved are *in Christ* and not subject to Judgment day. They have been already judged.

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Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

 

 

 

Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

 

 

 

Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 

 

 

Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

 

Revelation 21:27

Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

[Cvengr]

The message would be trampled to death.

It sure would seem to be, wouldn't it?

[Elsie]

It would appear not.

Did they TASTE of the things mentioned; or only drool in front of the bakery?

[Elsie]

The vast majority of readers would have a teacher who would obviously straighten out any confusion.

true; but that 'teacher' is DEFINITELY going to explain it the way that HE sees it!

[AppyPappy]

” All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. “

Rather ironic considering our discussion of Judas. Jesus didn’t cast him out. Judas left on his own, deceived by sin and Satan.

[kosciusko51]

But Christ said, “I never knew you”. Not, “you’re just someone that I used to know”.

[kosciusko51]

I mis-read your response. They performed miracles; I would say that is more than drooling...

[Elsie]

So many make doctrine define scripture; instead of the other way around.

[Elsie]

I often hum because I can’t remember the words...

[kosciusko51]

:-)

[Elsie]

But Jesus didn’t say WHY he perished.

Could not scripture been fulfilled and Judas STILL have been saved? After all; Jesus was already in the hands of the authorities before Judas KILLED HIMSELF.

[Elsie]

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life.

Even if this person, for whatever reason, no longer believes?

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John 3:18 New International Version (NIV)
 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

[kosciusko51]

I think if Jesus called you the son of perdition, it won’t go well for you.

[Elsie]

Sooner or later you’re going to have to get it through your head that faith is the willful earnest keeping of the commandments, and absolutely nothing else.

Oh REALLY?

(Go select one of many GIFs to illustrate this better)

 

 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

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1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.

[Elsie]

yup

[wardaddy]

I’m Baptist

Southern...a big secret to most FREEPERS but I’ll admit it I’m actually southern

I’m sure y’all figured I was from Massachusetts

Anyhow we’re warned not to deny or attempt to rebuke God or steadily fail a moral life at our own peril of eternal damnation

Catholics and lutherans may see it different

In my creed I’d say you denied Christ and joined ISIS

yer done fer regardless if you ever walked down front as a kid

[Elsie]

They performed miracles;

[Elsie]

They performed miracles;

So could the Pharaohs dudes!