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Posted on 02/01/2017 6:49:28 PM PST by ebb tide
In another in a long stream of apparent attacks on his critics, Pope Francis gave a homily last week accusing Christians who avoid taking risks out of concern for the Ten Commandments as suffering from cowardliness, warning that such people become paralyzed and unable to go forward.
Not taking risks, please, no... prudence...Obeying all the commandments, all of them...,' the pope said, characterizing the thinking of such Christians. Yes, its true, but this paralyzes you too, it makes you forget so many graces received, it takes away memory, it takes away hope, because it doesnt allow you to go forward.
Such people become confined souls who suffer from the sin of cowardice, the pope added. And the presen[ce] of a Christian, of such a Christian, is like when one goes along the street and an unexpected rain comes, and the garment is not so good and the fabric shrinks...Confined souls...This is cowardliness: this is the sin against memory, courage, patience, and hope.
The remarks were made during a homily delivered on January 27th during a mass he was celebrating in Casa Santa Marta, a hotel for pilgrims situated inside of Vatican City where he currently resides. A translation was provided by both Rome Reports and Vatican Radio (the Rome Reports translation is quoted above).
The translation published by Vatican Radio rendered the Italian word pusillanimità (similar to the English word pusillanimity) as faintheartedness. However, Italian-English dictionaries translate the word pusillanime and pusillanimità as cowardly and cowardice. The pope used the word twice during his homily.
The popes remarks appeared to be directed against those who criticize him for using Amoris Laetitia to permit those who are living in adulterous second marriages to receive Holy Communion at the discretion of their priest. The practice contradicts the Churchs Code of Canon Law, as well as its perennial tradition of prohibiting the sacraments to those who are living in public mortal sin.
In particular, Athanasius Schneider, auxiliary bishop of Astana, Kazakhstan, recently decried those clerics who wish to give Holy Communion to remarried Catholics living in adultery. He labeled them Aaronic priests who enable their flock to sin against the Ten Commandments, like the High Priest Aaron in the Book of Exodus, who built a golden calf to allow the Israelites to violate the first commandment.
In a thinly-veiled critique of Pope Francis Amoris Laetitia, delivered at the Lepanto Foundation in Rome, Schneider warned: This first clerical sin is repeating itself today in the life of the Church. He added, Instead of the First Commandment, as it was in the time of Aaron, many clerics, even at the highest levels, substitute in our day, for the Sixth Commandment, the new idol of sexual relations between people who are not validly married, which is, in a certain sense, the Golden Calf venerated by the clerics of our day.
The popes statements are the latest in a volley of barbs apparently aimed at critics of Amoris Laetitia in recent weeks.
In late December, addressing the issue of resistance to his attempted reforms, Francis decried malicious resistance that takes refuge in traditions, appearances, formalities, in the familiar, or else in a desire to make everything personal, failing to distinguish between the act, the actor, and the action. The last reference seems to be to those who object to his insinuation in Amoris Laetitia that those civilly remarried and living in an adulterous relationship are not guilty of a sin if they commit it with the intention of maintaining unity for the sake of children, or if they fear they might fall into another sin.
On January 20 Francis complained in a homily about lazy Christians, Christians, who do not have the will to continue, Christians, who do not struggle for a change of things, for new things to come, those that if changed would be a good for everybody. He made an apparent comparison of his critics to the doctors of the law who persecuted Jesus, observing that these men did everything prescribed by the law. But their mindset was distanced from God. Theirs was an egotistical mindset, focused on themselves: their hearts constantly condemned [others].
This is satire, right? Someone please tell me this is satire!
I always figured if the Pope was a successor of Peter, and privy to all he knew, the Church would stick by its guns through thick and thin and never deviate from it. Now that it’s getting wishy washy, it makes me wonder if the Pope truly has inside information or is just winging it based on how he feels that day.
Or he speaks of things some people do not understand.With the first quoted passage the Holy Father is talking about scrupulosity.Because you fail in certain commandments does not mean you can not go forward.
We gave you, two weeks ago, the entire sermon from which your quote was mined in a way that would make MSM journalists proud.
And you’re trying to use that worthless argument again in such a short time after we completely destroyed you, and showed that, in context, the entire quote from Luther was an encouragement to fully repent and embrace God’s grace.
Are you an idiot?
Wait, wrong question.
Are you an idiot on accident or on purpose?
He sounds like he’s cracking up. ( which isn’t good but may possibly signal his papacy could be approaching a speedier end than otherwise???)
Jesus said, Mark 12:30-31New International Version (NIV)
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.[a] 31 The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself.[b] There is no commandment greater than these.
What commandment can you ignore and still fulfill these two?
Who is “we”? You, Lucifer and his minions?
Ah, good. Childish taunts instead of referencing the post in question near the end of the last flame war.
Thank you for answering my question: you are being an idiot on purpose.
Let me give you, once again, the important part:
“If you are a preacher of grace, preach a real grace, not a fictitious one. God does not make saved sinners fictitiously. Be a sinner and hold yourself for a great sinner (This is where your ‘sin boldly’ comment comes from. See? Out of context), but believe more boldly and rejoice in Christ, who is victor over sin, death, and the world. There is to be sin as long as we are thus [that is, in this life there is bound to be sin, even in Christians, as both the Roman church and the Reformers held]; for this life is not the habitation of righteousness, but we look for, says Peter, a new heaven and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness. It suffices that through the riches of the glory of God we know the Lamb who taketh away the sin of the world, from him sin cannot tear us away, even a thousand, even though we should commit fornication or murder a thousand times in one day. Do you think that the price and redemption for our sins by such a Lamb is so small?”
So, snookums, here you have it. Luther’s quote instead says that God’s grace is stronger than any sin, so we should be bold in confessing, because God is greater than any sin we should commit.
He is NOT encouraging people to sin, and YOU are bearing false witness by claiming otherwise.
But I bet that you will happily continue to use your tired, stupid quote-mining because you hate Lutherans and Protestants more than you love God’s commandments.
*Micdrop.jpg*
I am a former Catholic, but not anti-Catholic and I genuinely feel for the Catholics having to deal with this fake Pope. I know I would be having serious heartburn or worse if I were still a Catholic.
**following all 10 Commandments**
Isn’t that what God wants?
This pope is not a Christian.
But according to Francis, like the Sacrament of Marriage, the Ten Commandments are merely an “ideal”, not achievable by that many souls.
That's odd. It was certainly discussed by my pastor during Lutheran catechism class back in the less politically correct days. And when confirmed, I answered affirmatively when asked by the pastor: "Do you hold all the prophetic and apostolic Scriptures to be the inspired Word of God and confess the doctrine of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, drawn from them, as you have learned to know it from the Small Catechism, to be faithful and true?"
Here I or any confirmand subscribes without reservation to the doctrine of the Evangelical Lutheran Church exposited in the various Symbols of the Lutheran Book of Concord of 1580, not just the Small Catechism. In the Book of Concord, the following sections specifically refer and discuss the pope as the Antichrist: Smalcald Articles.IV.10, SA.IV12, Treatise on the Power and Primacy of the Pope.39, Tr.41, Tr.42, Tr.57
As a Lutheran you do have a copy of the Book of Concord that you study, don't you?
I never thought I would see the day when the ‘False Prophet’ was shown...boy was I wrong...how close are we to the ‘the end’???
Ah, I’ve been sick of sticking to the “Thou Shall Not Kill” one for a while :)
Plus my married neighbor is hot.
And they have a NICE car :)
Lutherans accept divorce and “remarriage”. So please don’t tell me that Luther sought to “save the Church”.
Amen! Anyone who follows any of the Old Covenant must follow it all - that’s not me, that’s what Paul said.
I had this Marxist pope pegged when I found out he was from Argentina. Liberation Theology was my first thought. Social Justice was my second. He deceptively tried to blow off people who suspected his true colors. Color him pink.
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