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To: vladimir998

This isn’t a sports game.

The Pope is KING AND POPE.

His underlings are trying to overthrow him on certain issues.

I am not going to continue this ludicrous conversation.

There is no doubt that the Vatican is filled with politics, backstabbing and jockeying for positions. There is no doubt the amount of damage that gets done because of the politics involved behind the scenes. See the horrendous child abuse scandals..

but you just go ahead and believe no such politics are involved. Your definition of politics is far too narrow if you believe Martin Luther’s whole situation didn’t involve politics in the Roman Catholic Church.


36 posted on 11/16/2016 6:27:30 AM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: RummyChick
The Pope is KING AND POPE.

There are certain things a pope can't do. That's because he's a custodian of something handed down to him for safekeeping. He cannot damage that which is in his custody.

His underlings are trying to overthrow him on certain issues.

Wrong.

They're attempting to prevent damage to something "deposited" with him. The deposit of faith.

43 posted on 11/16/2016 6:36:59 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: RummyChick

“This isn’t a sports game.”

It isn’t politics either. My analogy stands.

“The Pope is KING AND POPE.”

Nope. Prime Minister. Christ is the King.

“His underlings are trying to overthrow him on certain issues.”

Nope. What you suggest is a logical impossibility. It literally cannot happen for there is no such thing as “overthrow him on certain issues.” A man can be overthrown, but not on a certain issue. If he is overthrown he is OVERTHROWN. He’s done. . . in EVERYTHING. This is about one document, not everything.

“I am not going to continue this ludicrous conversation.”

Of course not - because you were wrong from the start and some of us are calling you on it and you have nothing to fight back with.

“There is no doubt that the Vatican is filled with politics, backstabbing and jockeying for positions.”

Doesn’t matter. There is NO EVIDENCE that this is about politics. Look at how much politics there is in the NFL (Kaepernick’s protest is just one TINY example), but that doesn’t make the game itself politics.

“There is no doubt the amount of damage that gets done because of the politics involved behind the scenes. See the horrendous child abuse scandals..”

Wow, you’re really throwing in the kitchen sink here - apparently out of desperation.

“but you just go ahead and believe no such politics are involved. Your definition of politics is far too narrow if you believe Martin Luther’s whole situation didn’t involve politics in the Roman Catholic Church.”

I didn’t say anything about Luther. And I don’t doubt that there were political issues involved - but not in the main issue of Luther’s heresy - which is what the Church cared about. The Church has often done the most “impolitic” things choosing to act against any possible worldly gain for itself just to serve the truth of the Gospel.


46 posted on 11/16/2016 6:41:09 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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