Posted on 10/24/2016 5:27:43 AM PDT by hoagy62
As I write you, 50,000 people have read the blog that mentioned Max Lucado and Beth Moore. Today I want to clear the air about why that happened. For me to mention the name of a fellow minister is like getting a root canal. I only do it when all other remedies have been exhausted. We are family. We are all on the same team. Christian unity is a witness to a dying world. So then why did I put out the blog? I did it to defend Christians who are going to vote for Trump. Whether Max and Beth intended it or not, their remarks had the effect—I am being delicate and kind here—of questioning Christians who support Trump. Max openly wondered how any Evangelical could follow Donald. Beth did the same to Christian men who support Trump. She can’t support Trump because he “objectifies women” and she believes he assaulted women. She can’t see how any Christian man who would support Trump. But they are both doing something else that really hurts Christians who support Trump: They are being silent about Hillary Clinton. They have said nothing against her. More on this later.
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If you don't know who the guy is, he's an evangelist. If you've ever heard the song "Witch's Invitation" by Carman, the person invited to visit the witch in the song was Pastor Murillo.
We need some kind of personal pronoun meter, Hoagy. If more than maybe five author self references in the first two sentences, the thread goes straight in the trash can.
I don’t ned any help defendng my vote for Trump. It is real simple. Who will better serve Satan as President of the Uited States?
Donald Trump
Hillary Clinton
I my humble Christian opinion that has to be hands down Hillary Clinton.
You think boys in the girls bathroom is wrong, just wait until Hillary packs th court with far left, extremist progressives.
This author is correct. Beth Moore is silent about Hilary.
Beth Moore just lost me. I wouldn’t trust her to cut my grass.
Exactly. I am tired of the lack of discernment about what Hillary Clinton stands for and how it conflicts with Biblical values. NOT what she says to the public, what she does and says in the governing.
>>Beth Moore just lost me. I wouldn’t trust her to cut my grass.
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Beth Moore is one of an increasing number of “Christian” CHARLATANS who have fooled so many for so long..........but ....
NO MOORE (More)!
Good points, how can we take seriously any pastor who publicly rejects Trump for one thing he said, but then is silent regarding the evil things Hillary has done?
Never before this election have I been willing to consider someone a false prophet based solely on political comments. Hillary does what is evil in the sight of God-her passion for killing babies alone should cause men of God to cry out against her. Their silence is telling. We are seeing the wheat separated from the chaff.
I had not heard about Lucado and do not know Moore, but they are engaging in faulty devil-like thinking. I have read books by Lucado, this is a disappointment. I won’t be buying any more. As a Catholic, I am already feeling the persecution from a secular government gone bad....Evangelicals will, too. All of Christianity will under a Hillary presidency. We need to band together and support Trump. It’s the only choice for a Christian.
I do not understand any Christian thinking twice about whether it’s ok to vote for Trump. I don’t get the holier than thou attitude in even questioning whether it’s right or not.
The women? They are paid to lie... paid by the hillary camp.. they do it every election if the republican candidate gets close to winning... get a clue, folks... they do it every election.. and you are making it work.. to believe the lies mean they can do it again.. and again.. They did it to Bork, to Clarence Thomas, to Herman Cain, to Romney... don’t believe every lie that walks up to your door.
There are thousands of emails that are showing you who hillary is and what they are doing to take Trump out... you can read?.. then look at who she is! She’s a dangerous commodity in this election and not fit to even run for the office.. she has compromised the FBI, the state dept, the justice dept, our government.. and the media... all are covering for her to keep their cash cow and their power, in tact... Trump is not one of them and they are angry at him for daring to end their world of power and corruption, which is on the scale of unbelievable magnitude... which would not even have been exposed if not for Trump.
If they ran a minister ... an avowed Christian... there’d be no way he could win in this environment... nor stand the heat. Pence is as close to that as you can get and Trump is the most conservative candidate we’ve had in a long time. No matter what the republicans have said about him not being one, everything he has done so far is more conservative than any of the other candidates ever were.
Okay, so there are those who don’t like Trump’s mouth... look, to cut to the chase, we have 2 choices here. Trump’s brashness is the reason he can stand all this they are throwing at him. Compare anything you don’t like about his manner... to hillary’s. You like her manner better? Then you don’t know who she is and you’d better learn real fast!
Lying doesn’t bother you? Trump’s manner does? Lying to the FBI and getting a pass on so many things she did, but any other person would be in prison for even just ONE of those offences? Setting precedence of the elite in our country get a pass but the rest of us don’t, doesn’t bother you? Her stance on killing babies after they are born doesn’t bother you? Selling pieces of America to foreign governments doesn’t bother you? Not caring and letting 4 men be murdered in Benghazi doesn’t bother you? Then lying to us about what happened and lying to the grieving parents and wives of those she let die.. doesn’t bother you? Looking you in the face with a hypocritical smile and using her foul mouth to cut everyone else to the quick, doesn’t bother you? But Trump’s brashness does? Even though everything he is trying to do will clean up the corruption and make this country so you can get a job, sell or buy a house, get insurance for everyone that is affordable, get your kids in good schools for a change, stop the violence in our streets, save our freedoms, appoint conservative judges, and get this country back on its feet for the first time in a long time.
hillary would use the power of the government to control all of you in everything you do... she would remove Christian’s Bible and any resemblance of Christianity.. your kids would stay in failed schools and your neighborhoods would remain unsafe... millions of muslims would be brought in and in a few years, there would be beheading in our streets.. and you are okay with all this?
Trump is a fighter... help him win this for YOU!
Never cared for either. Max Lucado writes bubble gum Christian books. Gave away is devotional
Bible because it was too much about him, and Beth Moore, well just never cared for her type of Bible study book.
This is not a surprise. To see who is REAL compare and contrast those two with Franklin Graham.
They have joined team Glenn Beck.
Voting for Trump needs no defense.
I was a Cruz supporter so I’m not thrilled about voting for Trump but I realize that God’s Hand is in play with these elections and He will choose who our next leader will be. The Lord put Israel under the rule of good kings and bad kings, sometimes exiled to be even under worse rulers - and all for a purpose.
God has often used imperfect men to affect His Will on His Nation. Ever heard of Saul of Tarsus? He went around zealously killing Christians until God changed him into the Apostle Paul. Regardless how sincere Trump is about a conversion, I am confident in the God that can change people.
I believed some of what Trump did to Cruz was dirty and underhanded. But it exposed that Cruz lacked the mental toughness to run against Hillary, something Trump has and God knew he had. So perhaps Trump is God’s vehicle to pull our country away from the cliff despite his sometimes sullied past.
Americans may be in store for four years of judgement and unredeemable evil under Hillary. It may be so that America will learn to repent and turn back to God. Or it may be that the End Times are approaching and He must set the stage for the Final Battle and the Final Judgement.
I am confident that God’s Will will be done in this election and confident that he wants me to vote for the one candidate left standing who can defeat the evil Clintons before that make America their gulag. Therefore, as a Christian, I have no trouble voting for Trump even though I am not personally fond of some of his deeds, past and present. God only asks for people He can use. He doesn’t ask for them to be pre-perfect before we vote for them.
Beth Moore is an example of why the Apostle Paul said no woman was to teach doctrine.
Also, if it is judgement it will last more than 4 years, probably decades, because of the Supreme Court. I am praying that God will wake up his people. We can be so weak and spineless and blind.
thanks for the post. don’t know murillo, but his posts were spot on.
sadly i didn’t know this about lucado. have no idea who moore is. anyway hope lucado fesses up if he is in the tank for hillary. his “fans” need to know this.
(And the Methodists do not deny her!)
There is such a thing as bearing false witness - I think there's a commandment against that?
Beth Moore is too full of HERSELF for me.
Romans 13:1 (NIV)
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
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God chooses the leadership and, IMO, there’s no greater proof than the 2000 presidential election when Democrat vote fraud should have elected Al Gore but God intervened and caused the election to go to Bush, in part by causing 3000+ fraudulent votes in Palm Beach County to go to Patrick Buchanan instead of Gore.
The more pundits say Trump can’t win, the more God is smiling because he enjoys making the proud look foolish.
I still thank God for that word. He changed my life through it.
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