Why Does Jesus Call the Father Greater If We Teach That the Members of the Trinity Are Equal?

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-23-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[terycarl]

"Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven" Matthew 23:9

Your dad will be disappointed....

[MHGinTN]

I listed several you poor thing, and the year your religion added them to dogma. You’re too pathetic to deal with. Take your medicine and go to bed.

[terycarl]

Having the paganism of Catholic Mass exposed upsets you. Understandable, since Catholics have been indoctrinated to place their faith in the org run ritual rather than the simplicity of faith in Him. Catholics go to this ritual placing faith in the ritual to cleanse them, rather than exercising faith in His atonement by activating their faith in Him, not a ritual. You cannot eat God's Life into your belly and rejuvenate your spirit and soul.

so, for 2,016 years Christians have been wrong concerning the Eucharist but luckily, you sprang up to set us straight.......thanks!

[MHGinTN]

I really don’t believe anything can rescue you from your ignorance. A man you age believing the catholic priest has the magic power to transubstantiate bread and wine into cannibalistic flesh and blood is beyond my pay grade to help. My God have mercy upon you ...

[boatbums]

If the church excommunicates someone, they are no longer Catholic, it doesn't matter whether or not other Catholics believe it or not.

And if someone excommunicates themselves (latae sententiae)?

[knarf]

If your answer is truth, then one CAN leave Catholicism and be a former Catholic which, as I understand you correctly, is an argument you use frequently against those that say they (for whatever reason) "came out from among them" (as scripture commands)

According to your reply to me, the decision was yours

Could not one decide for THEMselves also that Catholicism was NOT the true 'religion' and if so, THEIR thought processes are just as valid and mature as yours ?

[metmom]

Nope, if a marriage is annulled, it never took place from the beginning. If the church excommunicates someone, they are no longer Catholic, it doesn't matter whether or not other Catholics believe it or not.

Nonsense.

If they took marriage vows, be them Catholic, Protestant, whatever, they made a vow with their own mouths.

A vow is a vow.

No legal contract is ever considered void because one of the parties later declares that they had no intent on keeping it in the first place, that they went into it with the intent to deceive.

They are still legally bound by the contract they entered into.

The Catholic church is just using weasel words as an excuse to give Catholic couples a divorce, a breaking of the vows they made before their church and GOD, without calling it a sin and without excluding them from participating in church.

After all, if the church stuck to their guns about not breaking marriage vows, they'd be cutting off their noses to spite their face. They'd be alienating those very people they depend on for money.

[metmom]

Typical knee jerk deflection used as an excuse to disobey the clear, concise command of Jesus, who was talking about His followers taking religious titles for themselves.

It’s amazing how Catholics will justify disobeying Jesus in this area.

Happens. Every. Time.

[metmom]

If the church excommunicates someone, they are no longer Catholic, it doesn't matter whether or not other Catholics believe it or not.

Which totally flies in the face of claims made by your fellow Catholics that *once a Catholic, always a Catholic.*

And that being baptized as a Catholic leaves an indelible mark on your soul, as you yourself have claimed in the past yourself.

Can you all just get together some time and decide just what it is your church teaches and what you believe?

Considering that y'all claim to be unified in the Catholic faith, there sure are bigger disagreements and doctrinal positions and theological weirdness than I see exist between non-Catholics on this board.

[Elsie]

Nope, the Catholic church is a 2,016 year old institution instituted by Christ to profess His message.

And just what MESSAGE was being proclaimed by THESE Catholic churches???

Your 'first pope' didn't do a very good job.

Why should anyone believe that the OTC's popes have EVER done a good job?

You sure don't like the one you have now!

[Elsie]

Nope, if a marriage is annulled, it never took place from the beginning.

 

But; if you are EVER baptized Catholic; nothing can be done to UN-make you Catholic; Right?

 

 

Your #727 vanished; but it's shadow was left behind:

 

Metmom was, and therefore still is, a Catholic....as are you. You cannot cease to be male or female (although some are trying) and you cannot cease to be Catholic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is this going to be another verga #160 moment?

Metmom was, and therefore still is, a Catholic....as are you. You cannot cease to be male or female (although some are trying) and you cannot cease to be Catholic.

Is this going to be another verga #160 moment?

[Elsie]

...I didn’t look back on the Baptist church with disdain, ...

Well; you sure seem to NOW!

[Elsie]

...recite an incantation to invoke God to change the wine into blood... = In a Catholic Mass, the bread and wine are transubstantiated into...

I'm just SURE there is a difference in here...

...somewhere.

[Elsie]

I’m in awe of your utter disrespect for the Word of God.

[Elsie]

...seems like wherever Elsie was, there was usually a little bull around.

Well; we still have terycarl with us.

[Elsie]

so, for 2,016 years Christians Catholics have been wrong concerning the Eucharist

You 'christians' couldn't even get 7 little Catholic churches in Asia on the right track; and yet; here you are today; lecturing others how to do church right.

[Elsie]

And if someone excommunicates themselves (latae sententiae)?

Why; they wuzn't saved to begin with!

(The other side of the OSAS coin!)

[af_vet_1981]

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Matthew, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses eleven to twelve,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[Mark17]

when you leave a protestant denomination, which is an erroneous or incomplete form of Christianity, you feel fulfilled and complete

I disagree bro. Fulfilled and contented is how I felt when I left the Catholic Church, as I self excommunicated. Since I got self excommunicated, there is no inedible mark on my soul, and I am no longer a Catholic.

there has to be a true complete and unchallengeable form of Christianity, and i have decided that it is Catholicism

I disagree bro. I, me, myself, and I, have decided exactly the opposite. It is NOT Catholicism.

In a Catholic Mass, the bread and wine are transubstantiated into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ while retaining their appearance of bread and wine......

I disagree bro. The bread and wine are still bread and wine, even after the magic incantation of the priest. Nothing has changed.
I guess there really isn't much we agree on at all, but I am comfortable with that. In fact, I am infinitely comfortable with that.
Judgement day is fast approaching bro. Remember, only born again Chtistians go to Heaven. Everyone else goes to Hell. I don't know where you are going, but wherever it is, it's on you.

[metmom]

That’s right.

I keep that in mind every time some Catholic comes along and throws the *you’re so full of anger and hate* card at me.