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This is exactly the teachings you get from people that worship their own concept of Jesus and not the actual real person that is Jesus and His Father.

The real Jesus said over and over that works were absolutely necessary for Salvation. You have to earn salvation from HIM. You can’t get there on your own. Jesus Christ has to award you salvation after your works are judged.

He said so in Matt 25: 32-.

Notice also in verse 37 the people that will actually be saved don’t know they are saved until Jesus tells them they are.

Anyone that goes around proclaiming themselves to be saved, is actually usurping the judgement from Jesus and will be sent to hell for it. The best description I’ve heard goes like this, “The further someone is from God the more entitled to salvation they think they are.”

Look at all of you. You all go around proclaiming to the world you don’t have to do anything for your salvation and as a matter of fact you’re ALREADY saved.

Even though the real Jesus has stated, in his own words, if you didn’t do the works He commanded you to do, He would cast you out at the last day.

Matt 25:
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

You did it not.

Jesus Himself said that baptism was necessary to fulfill all righteousness. Even Jesus was baptized. And He said you couldn’t get into heaven with out it.

But low and behold, how many people will say baptism isn’t necessary for salvation? Regardless of what Jesus said....

This is going to happen as surely as the sun raises in the east..

Luke 13:
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

He’s talking to “believers” btw.

But all those ranks of people He’s casting out have to be filled by somebody right?


79 posted on 05/17/2016 4:01:51 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
And the militant Mormon asserted: "The real Jesus said over and over that works were absolutely necessary for Salvation. You have to earn salvation from HIM. You can’t get there on your own. Jesus Christ has to award you salvation after your works are judged."

The 'real Jesus' of your Mormonism, would that be the one who appeared to Joe Smith in the woods, in his bedroom, etc., or is this a Jesus not found in the Bible, because God' Word says no such thing as you assert. But Joe Smith did, when taking time off from taking other men's wives as his sexual servants.

According to the Bible, Jesus told Nicodemus the Gospel of Salvation in John 3:14-18 and connected it to the healing event found in Numbers 21:4-9 as example of His Way to Save. The Bible also illustrates the immediacy of salvation in the here and now with the scene at Pentecost and in the House of Cornelius. ... Joe Smith told Mormons that they might be saved 'after all that they can do to get worthy of salvation.' Joseph Smith proved to be a false prophet.

81 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: StormPrepper

# 79 >>Anyone that goes around proclaiming themselves to be saved, is actually usurping the judgment from Jesus and will be sent to hell for it. The best description I’ve heard goes like this, “The further someone is from God the more entitled to salvation they think they are.”

Look at all of you. You all go around proclaiming to the world you don’t have to do anything for your salvation and as a matter of fact you’re ALREADY saved.<<

Excellent Post! t y...


91 posted on 05/17/2016 5:59:41 PM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: StormPrepper

Says the cultist who denies John 14:6


92 posted on 05/17/2016 6:16:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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To: StormPrepper
This is exactly the teachings you get from people that worship their own concept of Jesus and not the actual real person that is Jesus and His Father.

And just what is the MORMON concept of JESUS??


105 posted on 05/17/2016 6:55:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
... the actual real person that is Jesus and His Father.

LDS 'concept' of 'His Father' is that the father has a body of flesh; too.


106 posted on 05/17/2016 6:57:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
Anyone that goes around proclaiming themselves to be saved, is actually usurping the judgement from Jesus and will be sent to hell for it.


The Bible is a wonderful book:

“These things I write unto you, that ye may know that ye have eternal life, even unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God”

1 John 5:13

107 posted on 05/17/2016 7:00:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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