Posted on 04/19/2016 8:52:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Most Americans say they believe in God. And around the world, religious Jews, Christians, and Muslims all say they believe in God, as do many people who do not identify with any formal religion.
But this statement is actually meaningless. To cite but one example, the God in whose name Muslims cut innocent peoples throats and rape women cannot be the same God as the God of those who believe that God hates such actions.
Who, then, argues that all those who say they believe in God believe in the same God?
Two groups make this argument. The first consists of people who have an anti-religious agenda; in order to discredit God and religion, they say that all believers believe in the same God. The second group consists of people who have an inclusion agenda and wish to depict Muslims as believing in the same God that Jews and Christians do. (And some Muslims do indeed believe in the same God as Jews and Christians see below.)
So, then, how are we to know whether any two people who say they believe in God in fact do?
I will answer as a believing Jew: How do I know if another person believes in the same God as I do?
I ask the following three questions:
1. Do you believe in the God of Israel?
Those who cannot answer this question in the affirmative do not believe in the same God that believing Jews and the majority of believing Christians do. As for Muslims, they should have no problem answering in the affirmative. But in our time, at least, many wouldnt.
The God of Israel is, among other things, the God introduced to the world by the Jews and their Bible: the God who created the world, revealed Himself to the Jews, and made His moral will known through the Ten Commandments and the Hebrew Prophets.
2. Does the God you believe in judge the moral behavior of every human being?
There are many people today who say that they believe in God but not in a God who judges peoples actions. These people do not believe in the same God that traditional Jews and Christians worship. Those who believe in a God that is indifferent to the moral behavior of human beings believe in a God that is so different from the God introduced by the Jews that they might as well use a word other than God.
This does not mean that such people cannot be fine upstanding people (any more than everyone who believes in a morally judging God is necessarily a fine upstanding person). But in general they are less likely to be moral for the obvious reason that most human beings act better when they believe their actions will be judged (by God or by man).
At the same time, one need not be a Jew, Christian, or Muslim in order to believe in the God who judges peoples moral behavior. Benjamin Franklin was one such individual. He did not affirm the Christian creed, but he did believe in the morally judging God introduced by the Bible.
One might argue that violent Islamists also believe in a judging God and that Torquemada, the infamous head of the Spanish Inquisition, did. But this argument is not valid, because Islamists do not believe and Torquemada did not believe in a God who judges people by their moral conduct, but solely by their faith, a faith that they alone determined God approves of.
For the record, Jews never believed and the Jews Bible never suggested that one must believe in Judaism or be Jewish in order to be favorably judged by God.
3. Do you believe in the God who gave the Ten Commandments?
This question needs to be asked. After all, if God never revealed his moral will, how do we know what behaviors God demands from us and what He judges?
Finally, what about all those people who answer the three questions affirmatively but who have additional theological beliefs that separate them from others who believe in these three things? Do they believe in the same God?
For example, what about Christians who believe in the God of Israel, the God who morally judges human actions and who revealed the Ten Commandments but who also believe, by definition, in the Christian Trinity? Do they believe in the same God as Jews and other non-Christians who believe in these three things? I think they do. And the same would hold true for a Muslim who believes in those things but also believes that the Koran is the only fully valid revelation.
Whether or not one uses these three criteria, we should all at least acknowledge that saying one believes in God tells us nothing about the God one believes in. And regarding faith, that is what matters.
Dennis Prager is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host and columnist. His latest book, The Ten Commandments: Still the Best Moral Code, was published by Regnery. He is the founder of Prager University
I believed in Santa Claus and the easter bunny when I was 4.
God is the same.
As a mature adult now,an anthropomorphic god would at best be silly,at worst obscene.
The God of Jews and Christians commands us all to Love your enemies.
Practicing Jews do not recognize the Trinity. Also, there were plenty of “enemies of God” that were killed in the OT by God’s command; AND there will be plenty of God’s enemies that killed in the future by God’s command.
Jesus tells us to “turn the other cheek”, but we don’t have to get down on both knees and offer ourselves to the headman’s axe.
As for Muzzies, if some foreign power(s) messed with the U.S. like Westerners have messed with the Middle East...pffft....I’d be militant too.
No. By their fruits you shall know them. Allah is Satan.
He is NOT Jehovah, nor is he Jesus Christ. - Back in
high school, we got a Turkish exchange student. First time
I’d ever heard of “Muslims”. Back then, in 1963, we didn’t
have a clue.
Christians say no, Catholicism says yes.
Trinity.
The moslems violence and hatred for anything that is not moslem has nothing to do with anyone’s prior behavior. They hate and kill us because the god they worship commands them to hate and kill us.
islam is a cancerous cult that must be quarantined or eradicated.
Yeah, it makes far more sense that in the beginning there was nothing...And then it blew up.
The God of Christians is Jesus Christ, part of the Triune Godhead.
Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus as God, nor do most Jews.
Yeah, it makes far more sense that in the beginning there was nothing...And then it blew up.”
We have no idea how time began. It could be a non issue.All we have are theories.
I makes less sense with a jealous anthropomorphic deity.
I= it
bump
“islam is a cancerous cult that must be quarantined or eradicated.”
How about a 3rd option? One that’s much cheaper....keep them out. your talk of “quarantining” and “eradicating” has been used by neo-cons and liberal interventionists as an excuse to send lots of troops and money around the world as well as drive up our VA costs here at home when we have to care for all these wounded warriors. If Europe doesn’t want to keep them out, then let them fall...but don’t waste one dime subsidizing their defense costs.
“Those who refuse to believe have only themselves to blame.”
Bingo. It falls squarely on the individual.
Ok. Perhaps he had a capitalization issue. Yeesh.
“...messed with the Middle East...pffft....Id be militant too.”
That is one huge leap to be made. There are myriad other factors in play, such as the messed-with country’s government, economic structure, education systems, religious underpinnings, etc. For example, to lay blame on a foreign country that buys billions in oil, thereby enriching certain levels of the government/individuals, is not the fault of the oil buyer.
“I will tell of the decree: the LORD said to me, ‘You are my son, today I have begotten you..’” Psalm 2
Hebrews explains clearly that this son is Jesus and warns against rejecting Him who is superior to angels, patriarchs, the old covenant, etc. (they were all from God but lesser to the revealed Son).
He is not in the order of the Aaronic priesthood, but “after the order of Melchizedek”. Huge. Huge.
There is the Way—Jesus Christ— and every other way is NOT the way. No getting around Him.
I am neither Jewish nor Muslim
True words
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