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Is this a belief of all Protestants, that there are no saints that can pray for us in heaven? I did not realize that if this is true.

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252 posted on 01/18/2016 12:36:20 PM PST by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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Is this a belief of all Protestants, that there are no saints that can pray for us in heaven? I did not realize that if this is true.

I don't know. I don't speak for all Protestants.

First off, you have to know for sure that the person the church has labeled a saint is actually IN heaven.

Then you need to know that they can hear and answer prayer, and there's not a single verse of Scripture that indicates that that is possible.

Then one ought to consider what an affront to God and Jesus it is to not trust them enough to pray to the Father as Jesus commanded.

For Catholics to constantly harp on *Do whatever He tells you*, they sure are pretty good at NOT doing what Jesus tells them.

Jesus taught His disciples to pray and that meant going straight to the Father as He instructed and believing, trusting, having actual faith in the promises that the Word made flesh made to us that the Father would hear and answer our prayer Himself.

Additionally, does anyone seriously think that a saint or Mary are going to answer prayers or get answers for us that God won't give us Himself after He PROMISED to hear and answer our prayers?

So what would possess anyone to go to someone, anyone, less than the Father Himself to ask Him for something?

If Catholics don't think the Father would give it to them if they asked, why would they ever think that He would give it to them if someone else asked?

It'd be like you asking the neighbor kid for your dad to give you something because you don't think your dad would give it to you himself, but is more likely to give it to you if your friend asked rather than the son.

Especially considering that they teach that God cannot refuse Mary anything so they think if they pray to her, they'll be able to have her get it for them. That means they think that Mary is more compassionate and cares more for us that God does.

What a low view of God Catholics have.

262 posted on 01/18/2016 2:38:10 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: omegatoo
Is this a belief of all Protestants, that there are no saints that can pray for us in heaven?

I can't speak for ALL; just me.

There are no saints that can pray for us in heaven.


307 posted on 01/19/2016 12:21:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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