[metmom]

Is this a belief of all Protestants, that there are no saints that can pray for us in heaven? I did not realize that if this is true.

I don't know. I don't speak for all Protestants.

First off, you have to know for sure that the person the church has labeled a saint is actually IN heaven.

Then you need to know that they can hear and answer prayer, and there's not a single verse of Scripture that indicates that that is possible.

Then one ought to consider what an affront to God and Jesus it is to not trust them enough to pray to the Father as Jesus commanded.

For Catholics to constantly harp on *Do whatever He tells you*, they sure are pretty good at NOT doing what Jesus tells them.

Jesus taught His disciples to pray and that meant going straight to the Father as He instructed and believing, trusting, having actual faith in the promises that the Word made flesh made to us that the Father would hear and answer our prayer Himself.

Additionally, does anyone seriously think that a saint or Mary are going to answer prayers or get answers for us that God won't give us Himself after He PROMISED to hear and answer our prayers?

So what would possess anyone to go to someone, anyone, less than the Father Himself to ask Him for something?

If Catholics don't think the Father would give it to them if they asked, why would they ever think that He would give it to them if someone else asked?

It'd be like you asking the neighbor kid for your dad to give you something because you don't think your dad would give it to you himself, but is more likely to give it to you if your friend asked rather than the son.

Especially considering that they teach that God cannot refuse Mary anything so they think if they pray to her, they'll be able to have her get it for them. That means they think that Mary is more compassionate and cares more for us that God does.

What a low view of God Catholics have.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

“What a low view of God Catholics have. “

That is a denigrating statement and you should report yourself to the Religion Moderator.

[Mark17]

Then you need to know that they can hear and answer prayer, and there's not a single verse of Scripture that indicates that that is possible

That would called necromancy. It is forbidden. It is evil. The only ones who respond, are demons.

[Mark17]

Let's continue to wait on the rapture.

:-)

[omegatoo]

You don’t know if some Protestants believe in praying to saints in heaven? Yet you condemn the practice as a Catholic affront to God? If Protestants believe this too, where does that leave your argument?

Where do you believe people who are saved go when they die? I thought that was the point of being saved, to be sure you would go to heaven when you die.

If anyone had bothered to read the article, you would see that Catholics take the wedding at Cana story as an example of a way to ask Jesus for help. Because that is exactly what it portrays. Mary alerted Jesus to a problem (which He already knew about, of course) and He solved it. Would He have done it otherwise, would the wine steward or whoever have approached Jesus personally?We don’t know. What we have is a story of Mary interceding with Jesus on behalf of someone else, and that person received the benefit of a miracle from Jesus. Of course we go directly to Jesus, but sometimes we also go through Mary and the saints, just as in this scripture clearly shows.

Just as Jesus gave the disciples power to heal and perform miracles in His name, we believe the saints in heaven have been given this power, too. There is nothing in scripture that says this is not possible and it in no way diminishes God’s power.

Heaven is the condition of being united to God as part of the Body of Christ. Why would being given a part of God’s power when you are part of God be so hard to believe?

Love,
O2