Posted on 01/13/2016 12:39:24 PM PST by damonw
Today I got to interview tithing expert Ron Robey on my online TV show. He has written over 100 articles and 3 books on the topic. And he has a appeared on several well known Christian radio shows. Ron really knew his stuff and I did a good job of just asking questions so it turned out to be my best of 5 TV shows so far. This should convince anyone that tithing 10% to the church by compulsion is not taught in scriptures. – Damon Whitsell
http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2016/01/13/refuting-christian-tithing-interviewing-ron-roby-how2becomeachristian-tv/
DIRECT LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xk0oeVkOd4
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it was a joke- thought that was obvious?
as my pastor says, If everybody just gave something, then there wouldn’t always have to be a push to get people to give ten percent.
Churches, too, suffer from the 20/80 rule where 20% of the people give 80% of the offerings.
Well, not to bloggers is it a joke.
I'm going to expose this clear bias globally on my blog.
Watch my blog for updates.
you call me a dick for telling a joke and you want me to watch your blog?
YES!
HELL YES!
We do write off donations and then donate a portion of the refund.
We don’t do a strict tithe and our church only gets a portion (the lions share) of our donations.
We believe in supporting individual ministries and missionaries at our discretion.
I think that’s a good way to go. It’s always good when you know, kinda, how the money will be spent. We don’t write off as much as anything because it’s one less thing to have to figure on the taxes. And to me, it’s ‘mad money’ anyway.
It seems some in the church are waking up to the false teaching of tithing which is only 200 years old. When the establishment clause ended the religious tax, the tithe teaching then started in the US and spread to other nations. It was easy money, no faith required and this vulgar “don’t rob God” preaching made the gullible sheep fill the offering plates out of fear not joyful hearts. Mammon has a strong place in many churches and church leaders.
The Levite priesthood ended 2000 years ago.
The Levites were not allowed to own anything or to earn anything, they were supported by the other Israelite tribes via the tithe.
They could not tithe money either only 10% of the one year old livestock and grain (produce of the field). If it was too far to travel and bring your cattle or grain you could sell it for money travel to the place God has chosen for your tithe and then buy livestock or grain to tithe. The Levites did not receive money. Deuteronomy 14:24-26 God has always tried to keep his priesthood from the love of mammon. BTW we all are now the priesthood and if there was still a tithe we would be tithing to ourselves not a church and a leadership that has not the faith to live by faith. This “you are robbing God” is a con, it is evil.
This does not mean we should not support our church or our leadership. Let each of you decide in your own heart what to give to your church and to your leaders/Pastor. Give your support directly to your Pastor if you desire to support him, let him live by faith. 2 Cor 9:7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
The New Covenant instruction to give from your heart not a compulsory law as the tithe was. This is primarily for the needy, orphans, widows, the least of these (Matt 25) and your own (1 Tim 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.) I believe it is more than just your relatives but everyone God has given you care for. If you neglect the ones God sends for you to help you miss God and His heart. Giving is also to be done is secret, it is between you and God. Matt 6:3-4
If you want to give 10%...20%...90% to your church go ahead but don’t be ruled by this Tither lie.
It is true, people have gone into debt and lost their homes and their marriages because they tithed when they could not afford to.
Exactly give in secret, give cash and forget the tax deduction. Do things God’s way.
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I’ve thought a lot about tithing and debt and whether God would be more honored and would rather have us tithe or get out of debt.
In Scripture, debt is considered like a curse. We are commanded to owe no man anything except the debt of love. Also, the borrower is slave to the lender.
So if we are trying to do the right thing, which would be better? To tithe 10% to God or to pay off debt and be responsible with our money.
I think that if you’re paying someone off and you say to them, I can’t because I have to tithe, it’s just not the right thing to do. God owns everything anyway. He doesn’t NEED our money, and we know that by paying off debt we are being obedient to God. And since we’re not under the Law any more but grace, we are not even obligated to give 10% because, really, we owe God EVERYTHING. He owns it all anyway and we are just stewards of it.
To me, I think that it would be better to concentrate on paying off debt rather than letting debt remain to people and *give* it to God and just give as you feel led, and stop obsessing about that 10%.
When the govt eliminates the deduction, I’ve already moved past that.
What you give, like everything else, is as the Holy Spirit leads you. I agree that tithing = legalism.
Most of the time you will find that, if you ask, the Spirit will lead you to give generously, somewhere in the neighborhood of the strict 10% tithe.
I once heard a well known radio preacher (may have been David Jeremiah, but not sure, it was long ago) preach that, in ancient Israel the tithe was your contribution to the Temple plus your taxes to the government, so under that standard most of us give well above the tithe anyway.
That works
As long as you’re giving the The Lord.
:-) That’s the bottom line.
So then the question is obviously, How Much.
Do I sit down with my paystub, look at my gross earnings, (Not Net), and move the decimal point?
No. We have a predetermined ed guess on yearly earnings for us both and divvy 10 percent of that up into 52 weeks, rounding up to the closest 10.
That amount we treat as a ‘bill’ in our budget, giving it Gladly.
The very word tithe describes ‘tenth’. I cannot fathom the refusal to give, as some do.
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