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Christians Are At War With One Another As Americans Leave The Church In Droves
EAD ^ | 11/08/2015 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 11/08/2015 11:19:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Christianity is under attack from a thousand different directions all at once, and yet many believers have turned their guns on one another. This war among Christians seems to intensify with each passing year, and believers are often fighting for some of the stupidest reasons you can possibly imagine. Meanwhile, people are leaving our churches in droves and church attendance is way down. This is especially true of younger Americans. According to an incredible new report that was just released by the Pew Research Center, only 27 percent of all Millennials (U.S. adults born since 1990) attend religious services on a weekly basis. When you go into many churches in America on Sunday mornings, all you see are “the greys”, and I am not talking about space aliens. But instead of focusing on fixing what has gone wrong, many Christians (including a number of very prominent ministers) spend most of their energy savagely attacking their brothers and sisters in Christ. This is absolutely disgraceful and it needs to stop.

America is on the exact same path to secularization that Europe has already gone down. The Pew Research Center discovered that the percentage of Americans who are “absolutely certain” that God exists declined from 71 percent in 2007 to 63 percent in 2014. Meanwhile, the percentage of those that are “religiously unaffiliated” rose from 16 percent in 2007 to 23 percent today.

Atheism, agnosticism and other religions are on the rise in America, and Christianity is in decline. And as I noted above, this is particularly true among our young people. Here are some more numbers from an excerpt that I pulled directly out of the Pew report

Millennials -- especially the youngest Millennials, who have entered adulthood since the first Landscape Study was conducted -- are far less religious than their elders. For example, only 27% of Millennials say they attend religious services on a weekly basis, compared with 51% of adults in the Silent generation. Four-in-ten of the youngest Millennials say they pray every day, compared with six-in-ten Baby Boomers and two-thirds of members of the Silent generation. Only about half of Millennials say they believe in God with absolute certainty, compared with seven-in-ten Americans in the Silent and Baby Boom cohorts. And only about four-in-ten Millennials say religion is very important in their lives, compared with more than half in the older generational cohorts.

It has been projected that if current trends continue, the percentage of Americans attending church in 2050 will be about half of what it is today.

So those that are supposedly “leading the church” in America today need to wake up. What you are doing is not working. This nation is falling away from God, but many of you are spending much of your time and energy attacking one another.

Another thing that should deeply, deeply alarm Christian leaders is the fact that a large percentage of “believers” do not even seem to grasp the essential basics of the Christian faith. I am talking about things like who God is, the plan of salvation and the authority of the Bible. Here is more from Pew’s new report

Among Christians, two-thirds say many religions can lead to eternal life, and most of them (50% of all Christians) say some non-Christian religions can lead to life everlasting. The view that some non-Christian faiths can lead to eternal life is held by roughly two-thirds of Catholics (68%) and mainline Protestants (65%), as well as 59% of Orthodox Christians. Fewer members of the historically black Protestant tradition (38%), evangelical Protestants (31%) and Mormons (31%) say some non-Christian religions can lead to salvation. Just 5% of Jehovah’s Witnesses say some non-Christian faiths can lead to eternal life.

If other religions can lead to eternal life, then why did Jesus have to die on the cross? Why couldn’t He have just come down and pointed us in the direction of all those other faiths? Many Christians don’t seem to understand that Jesus had to die for us on the cross because there is no other payment for our sins. He took the penalty that we deserved, and now He offers us a new life as a free gift.

Without Him, we would have absolutely no hope and no future. But because of Him, our sins are forgiven and we have been given eternal life.

But a very large percentage of believers does not understand this. Sadly, many Christians seem to think that you can believe whatever you want and it will all be okay in the end.

So as you can see, the church in America today is a mess. As a Christian myself, this pains me greatly.

But instead of working to fix the problems and praying for revival, many believers seem to take glee in tearing down their fellow Christians.

One of the bad things about the anonymity of the Internet is that it gives people an opportunity to show what is really in their hearts. And in many cases, what comes out of the hearts of many supposed “Christians” is absolutely frightening.

If you venture into places where believers hang out on Facebook, on Twitter, on YouTube and on various Christian websites all over the Internet, you will find some of the most vile things imaginable being said about specific individuals.

I have seen Christians use curse words to describe one another, and good, solid believers that I know personally have been called “whores”, “heretics” and “scumbags” just to give you a few examples. There are even some “Christians” that publicly wish for their brothers and sisters in Christ to die and go to hell.

This kind of thing should not be happening. In Matthew chapter 22, Jesus gave us instructions about how we are to treat one another…

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

On my websites I talk about some very hard things, but you will notice that I don’t attack specific individuals that are on the same side as me. In this day and age, it is imperative that we all figure out who our friends are. None of us are ever going to agree 100 percent on everything, and that is okay.

Yes, sometimes there are things that need to be addressed, but the vast majority of times they can be taken care of privately. I have had some very honest discussions with people that are on the same side as me in private, but I would never air that stuff publicly.

If we are going to make it through what is coming, we have got to learn how to love one another. And we have got to stop viciously attacking one another over stupid stuff. Yes, there are some things that are so important that they must never be compromised on, but most of the attacks that I see happening are over very petty things.

And without a doubt, there are times when it become necessary to rebuke someone. But when at all possible it should be done in private, and it should always be done in a spirit of love.

Because in the end, if we do not have love, we are nothing. You can have all of the “knowledge” in the world, and you can go around correcting everyone else, but if you are lacking in love you are just a baby.

This is a hard lesson that I had to learn, and hopefully what I have written here will be helpful for someone.

This war among Christians needs to stop. Our faith is under attack like never before, and we desperately need to learn how to start working together.

At some point, hopefully we will begin to actually live the words of our Savior in John chapter 13…

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.


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To: SeekAndFind

I attended a Confirmation by Bishop Daugherty in Logansport Indiana today, about 30 teens, all of whom went through a pretty extensive orientation period.....the future of our Parish looks O.K. to me.


61 posted on 11/08/2015 7:18:07 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
My pastor died a few weeks ago from after a long battle with cancer and now I am once looking for a church with a pastor who speaks the Truth.

Zip down to your local Catholic Parish, they have been the ONLY source of TOTAL truth for 2,015 years.

62 posted on 11/08/2015 7:35:19 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Artemis Webb
With all respect, Martin Luther was the best thing that ever happened to The Catholic Church.

Martin Luther is possibly responsible for the loss of more souls than any other person in history.

63 posted on 11/08/2015 7:43:03 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Artemis Webb
Fixing your statement.....remember that everything before Luther was Catholic. There was no other church.

With all respect, Martin Luther was the best worst thing that ever happened to The Catholic Church.

Otherwise we would still all be Catholic and there wouldn't be 30,000+ configurations of Luther's ideas.

64 posted on 11/08/2015 7:43:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Church is NOT doing their job.

Does any church openly, actively speak out against Planned Parenthood and the harvesting of babies?

Answer: No

Does the church speak about Gay marriage openly and actively?

Answer: No

Do they speak out about ISIS and the U.S. government arming them while they butch Christians?

Answer: No

All they do is hen peck their congregation about tiny crap compared to much larger issues globally, never say squat about all the spending, high taxes, spy on their congregation, and then report them the people that are acting out immorally against the Bible doing far worse things that go against God for a tax deduction.

And they wonder why people are leaving the church?


65 posted on 11/08/2015 7:51:24 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: terycarl

What an utterly ridiculous thing to say! No man...not even your religion’s top ten most wicked popes can prevent the Holy Spirit from revealing the truth to those who are diligently seeking it. Get a grip.


66 posted on 11/08/2015 9:08:02 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: terycarl

LOL


67 posted on 11/09/2015 2:53:39 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Artemis Webb

With all respect, Martin Luther was the best thing that ever happened to The Catholic Church.

ah...a wonder I’ve survived thus far without this piece of useful input...


68 posted on 11/09/2015 4:38:16 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Salvation

Otherwise we would still all be Catholic and there wouldn’t be 30,000+ configurations of Luther’s ideas.

Since ‘Luther’s ideas’ are themselves configurations of Catholic precepts, any sequential iterations are as well...

Luther’s Mass is the Catholic Mass, minus the aspect of oblation, which he believed perverted the essential synapse of man to deity...this may seem as a large distinction, and it is, but his notion proceeds from a Catholic tenet, and is not made up out of wholecloth...


69 posted on 11/09/2015 5:15:00 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: SeekAndFind
Some of the "wars" (disagreements) are well-warranted and far past time waging. Ecumenism has been deadly poison in our Christian culture. Its reasoning has been one of the prime sources of apostasy in Christian America.

Spiritual Correctness, it is.

70 posted on 11/09/2015 7:04:50 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: factoryrat
The secularists, atheists, communists, and other assorted ilk have been infiltrating the church for some time, sowing the seeds of doubt, and driving a wedge between the faithful and their god.

And it works because Christians are strangers to their own bibles.

71 posted on 11/09/2015 7:14:04 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Now I understand why my grandparents quit voting.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Care to list the Church “rules” that are evil?


72 posted on 11/09/2015 7:53:04 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Playing musical chairs with pedophiles. Thats a ‘rule’ that the upper echelon of the church put in play many times around the world. They protected their own at the expense of children.

This ridiculous ‘he was misquoted’ line they (leadership) drag out which has quite literally happened every time their leftists say something that flies in the face of the Bible’s teachings.

The rule that the only people excommunicated seem to be those defying the leadership, rather than those defying God. Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy spring immediately to mind. It’s either a rule or they are incompetent and shouldn’t be leading the church because of it.

Then there is this fiasco of a Synod that had more liberalism spoken and pushed by the leadership than a GOP convention. Which are very much ‘rules’. And as always, they will enact the rules that were shot down, just as the Democrats they support do when the voters tell them ‘No”. Gay acceptance being the biggie here.

You may say ‘These are not rules’. Obviously they are rules because they are employed consistently and demanded/carried out by the leadership/Vatican...who MAKE whatever rules at whatever time they feel the need to. At some point, the RC Church is going to find itself with a not sizable core group of true believers because with each passing day, more Catholics become ex-catholic as a matter of soul searching. And that core group that insists on denying fidelity to the unchanging word of God is and will remain free to so so.

None of which changes the reality that the leadership of the modern church is following someone/thing other than the God described in their very own book. Denying it is something all are free to do. But it does not change the facts that we can all see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears.


73 posted on 11/09/2015 1:09:29 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - Embrace it)
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To: boatbums
What an utterly ridiculous thing to say! No man...not even your religion’s top ten most wicked popes can prevent the Holy Spirit from revealing the truth to those who are diligently seeking it. Get a grip.

It is the absolute truth...Luther has led millions away from Christ's true church into whatever fate might await them....the Holy spirit did not just start revealing Himself in the 17th century....don't you think that Christians, for the first 1,600 years were inspired by the Holy Spirit, and if so, what made Him change His mind....Luther?????????????I don't think so....he was in error and convinced many that he was the true way.......he wasn't.

74 posted on 11/09/2015 1:57:22 PM PST by terycarl
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To: achilles2000

My quip was with your statement “Almost all church attendance is a waste of time and insult to anyone with intelligence.”

How do you arrive at that?


75 posted on 11/09/2015 2:13:38 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Enlightened1

They do not because of the oppressive government just waiting to take away the non-profit status of any church preaching against the administration’s policies.


76 posted on 11/09/2015 2:16:01 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: SgtHooper

By sitting through years of church services in various churches and by having extensive contacts with evangelical “leaders”. I also have read a great deal of what pastors and “leaders” write (books, articles), almost none of which meets even basic standards of intellectual rigor. Exceptions include “family integrated churches”, churches that have predominantly homeschool families, some very conservative Presbyterian churches, a few non-affiliated Reformed churches, and a few others. There are some parachurch ministries of value, too.

I assume you aren’t thinking that mainline church attendance is worthwhile - Episcopalian, PCUSA, ELCA, etc. They are all obviously apostate.

Mark Noll, in his book The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind, correctly concluded that the “scandal” is that there isn’t much of a mind there.


77 posted on 11/09/2015 3:11:55 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SeekAndFind

One church lost a number of members because it started to support illegal aliens and wanted more Somalis to this country. The ex-members felt betrayed by this treasonous acts.


78 posted on 11/09/2015 3:15:30 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: Norm Lenhart
Just a quick comment (though I may get back to this tomorrow when I have time): you cite serious scandalous rule-breaking and conflate this with "the rules". Rule-breaking does not equal "the rules" any more than sleaze=virtue or duplicity=truth.

It's like saying "I'm disgusted with Judaism because of David and Mrs. Uriah." "I'm don't believe in the Constitution because of Ruth Bader Ginsburg." "I'm leaving Jesus because of Judas Iscariot."

The spectacle of sin makes you suffer. Join the club. The only question before you is "In the face of their infidelity, do I leave, or stay? Be unfaithful, or faithful?"

I guarantee you cannot make the Catholic Church be more faithful by leaving.

The severed hand can not heal the body.

79 posted on 11/09/2015 4:11:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In partibus infidelium.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A severed hand can most assuredly save the body when that hand is gangerous or otherwise infected beyond treatment.


80 posted on 11/09/2015 4:14:48 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - Embrace it)
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