Posted on 10/08/2015 8:02:23 AM PDT by Salvation
As a young child I was very close to God. I spoke to Him in a very natural way and He spoke plainly to me. Although I have very few memories of my early childhood, I vividly remember how close I was to God. When early puberty approached, though, I began to slip away, drifting into the rebellious and angry years of my teens. As the flesh came more alive, my spirit submerged.
The culture of the time didnt help, either. It was the late 1960s and early 1970s and rebelliousness and the flesh were celebrated as virtues. Somehow we thought ourselves more mature than our pathetic forebears, who were hopelessly repressed. There was the attitude among the young that we had come of age somehow. We collectively deluded ourselves, aided by the messages of rock music and the haze of drug use, that we were somehow better.
So it was the winter of my soul. The vivid faith of my childhood gave way to a kind of indifferent agnosticism. Though I never formally left Church (my mother would never had permitted that as long as I lived in under my parents roof), I no longer heard God or spoke to Him. Ive mentioned in previous posts that when I was in high school I joined the youth choir of my parish church. This was not precipitated by a religious passion, but rather by a passion of another kind: there were pretty girls in the choir and I sought their company, shall we say. But God has a way of using beauty to draw us to the truth. Week after week, year after year, as we sang those old religious classics a buried faith began to awaken within me.
But what to do? How to pray? I heard that I was supposed to pray. But how? As a child it had been natural to talk with God. But now He seemed distant, aloof, and likely angry with me. And Ill admit it, prayer seemed a little goofy to me, a high school senior still struggling to be cool in his own eyes and in the eyes of his friends. Not only that, but prayer was boring. It seemed an unfocused, unstructured, and goofy thing.
But I knew someone who did pray. My paternal grandmother, Nana, was a real prayer warrior. Every day she took out her beads and sat by the window to pray. I had seen my mother pray now and again, but she was more private about it. But Nana, who lived with us off and on in her last years, knew how to pray and you could see it every day.
Rosary Redivivus – In my parish church of the 1970s, the rosary was non-existent. Devotions and adoration were on the outs during that sterile time. Even the Crucifix was gone. But Nana had that old-time religion and I learned to appreciate it through her.
Ad Jesum per Mariam – There are some, non-Catholics especially, who think that talking of Mary or focusing on her in any way takes away from Christ. It is as though they consider it a zero-sum game, in which our hearts cannot love both Mary and Jesus. But my own experience was that Mary led me to Christ. I had struggled to know and worship Christ, but somehow a mothers love felt more natural, safer, and more accessible to me. So I began there, where I could. Simply pole-vaulting right into a mature faith from where I was did not seem possible. So I began, as a little child again, holding my Mothers hand. And gently, Mother Mary led me to Christ, her son. Through the rosary, that Gospel on a string, I became reacquainted with the basic gospel story.
The thing about Marian devotion is that it opens up a whole world. For with this devotion comes an open door into so many of the other traditions and devotions of the Church: Eucharistic adoration, litanies, traditional Marian hymns, lighting candles, modesty, pious demeanor, and so forth. So as Mary led me, she also reconnected me to many things that I only vaguely remembered. The suburban Catholicism of the 1970s had all but cast these things aside, and I had lost them as well. Now in my late teens, I was going up into the Church attic and bringing things down. Thus, little by little, Mother Mary was helping me to put things back in place. I remember my own mother being pleased to discover that I had taken some old religious statues, stashed away in a drawer in my room, and placed them out on my dresser once again. I also took down the crazy rock-and-roll posters, one by one, and replaced them with traditional art, including a picture of Mary.
Over time, praying the Rosary and talking to Mary began to feel natural. And, sure enough, little by little, I began to speak with God. It was when I was in the middle of college that I began to sense the call to the priesthood. I had become the choir director by that time and took a new job in a city parish: you guessed it, St. Marys. There, the sterility of suburban Catholicism had never taken hold. The candles burned brightly at the side altars. The beautiful windows, marble altars, statues, and traditional novenas were all on display in Mother Marys parish. The rest is history. Mary cemented the deal between me and her Son, Jesus. I became His priest and now I cant stop talking about Him! He is my hero, my savior and Lord. And praying again to God has become more natural and more deeply spiritual for me.
It all began one day when I took Marys hand and let her lead me to Christ. And hasnt that always been her role? She, by Gods grace, brought Christ to us, showed Him to us at Bethlehem, presented Him in the Temple, and ushered in His first miracle (even despite His reluctance). She said to the stewards that day at Cana, and to us now, Do whatever he tells you. The Gospel of John says, Jesus did this as the beginning of his signs in Cana in Galilee and so revealed his glory, and his disciples began to believe in him (John 2:11). And so Marys intercession strengthened the faith of others in her Son. That has always been her role: to take us by the hand and lead us to Christ. Her rosary has been called the Gospel on a string because she bids us to reflect on the central mysteries of the Scripture as we pray.
Yes....and not once is that a title. Check the Greek to see how it is used.
If it cannot be brought forward from the Word, that means it's not in there.
You will also note in that article there is not universal agreement among the ECFs on this issue either.
When viewed in totality the Immaculate Conception is not supported from a Scriptural perspective nor from the ECFs as a universal belief.
There is considerable support and evidence for the Trinity in the Word.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
She was not free of sin.
Why does she "have to be"?
I did not think I was making it personal but will as always abide by the note.
It's right in the bible.
Where do you think it is?
This verse tells me that I can go direct to the Father thanks to what The Lord has done for me. Why would I go to a middle woman never even mentioned as an intercessor?
I should have put a sarcasm off tag.
I just posted John 16:26 which tells me not to even go though Jesus but straight to the Father.
You explain it away.
It’ll do for an adjective.
“Yet now where in the NT do we have such an admonition to love Mary and Jesus equally.”
Yet now where in the article do we have such an admonition to love Mary and Jesus equally as you just claimed?
“This would contradict the greatest commandment would it not?”
What is contradicted is what you just claimed since no one said it.
From the how to pray the rosary instructions that came with a set of Rosary beads-
Quote attributed to ‘Mary’
Promise 1 of 15. Whosoever shall faithfully SERVE ME (Rome’s Mary)by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.
It is written in Luke 4:8
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written , Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and HIM ONLY shalt thou SERVE.
In the testimony of the Living Word quoting the Written Word, this Mary is a liar.
This false prophetess points to her son Jesus (promise 14.all who recite the Rosary are my Sons, and brothers of my Only Son Jesus Christ)
This Mary then must point to a False Christ because no lie is of the Truth- 1 John 2:21
So who is Rome’s Mary? She must be a lying prophetess that points to a false christ!
Unless she is being mistranslated in the published promises the Roman Catholic church member handed out to me-
A lying ounterfeit false Roman Mary that points to a counterfeit false Roman Jesus. In her very first promise she gives for praying the rosary..
contradicts her ‘son’ and His Word with her own..
For eyes to see or ears to hear..
Get behind me Satan indeed!
He is arguing against her elevation, there is no hatred.
“It’s just not worth it anymore to engage the usual suspects. Its just not.”
Pope’s blog is posted as non-Caucus usually. Maybe this one should have been (in the interest of forestalling disagreement)?
There is considerable support and evidence for the Trinity in the Word.Indeed there is. Yet "no direct or categorical and stringent proof of the dogma can be brought forward from Scripture." If there had been "direct or categorical and stringent proof" of the dogma of the Trinity, it would not have taken over 400 years after the death of Christ to finalize it at the Council of Chalcedon.
In other words, there is a distinction between "categorical proof" and "support."
We're still waiting to hear about the Roman Catholic apologists who admit that the Immaculate Conception is not supported in the NT.
She is the Mother of God.
Mary is a very special person. He called her sinful. He has no knowledge of that. That is a purposeful put down and was not done in a Christian way.
Mary is a very humble loving person that followed God’s will completely and Catholics recognize and honor her as the Mother of God.
defconw: Thanks for posting this (Annunciation Novena).
I don't see the word "better" any where in his sentence. I do see the words"more natural, safer, and more accessible. My Thesaurus does not give any of them as a synonym for "better".
Our prayers are with you and her. Verga and wife.
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