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1 posted on 10/05/2015 11:40:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Was he “mistranslated” again?


27 posted on 10/05/2015 11:50:50 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Every time this guy opens his mouth, I find more reason to distrust and dislike him.


29 posted on 10/05/2015 11:52:01 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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[the Church should not be a stuffy “museum of memories” but have the courage to change if that was what God wanted.]

ALMIGHTY GOD: THE SAME - YESTERDAY, TODAY, & TOMORROW


30 posted on 10/05/2015 11:52:46 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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Pope says Church can't be 'museum', must be open to change

Bible says "I am the Lord, I change not." (Mal. 3:6)

32 posted on 10/05/2015 11:53:32 AM PDT by ru4liberty (I wish FR were still "The Premiere *CONSERVATIVE* Site on the Net" :'(.....)
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The Church is meant to be like a North star a reference point to guide us as travel along our journey.

A couple of years ago, one of my employees told me she belonged to a "free style" Christian group. She said the elders would meet periodically to vote on what their beliefs were.

33 posted on 10/05/2015 11:54:54 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The kangaroos have taken over the supreme court.)
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Prov 24:21 My son, fear the Lord and the king; Do not associate with those given to change;

This applies to mr Hope and Change too.

34 posted on 10/05/2015 11:57:16 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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have the courage to change if that was what God wanted.
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How generous of Frankie..

“I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed...” Malachi 3:6

“He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change His mind; for He is not a human being, that He should change His mind.” 1 Samuel 15:29

God, who is enthroned from of old, who does not change— He will hear them and humble them, because they have no fear of God. Psalm 55:19

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. James 1:17

My son, fear the LORD and the king; Do not associate with those who are given to change, Proverbs 24:21


35 posted on 10/05/2015 11:57:45 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Dear Holy Father,
there is a big difference between ‘hardened hearts’... (it is always correct to preach or teach against hardened hearts!)...................
and .... any direct assault on clear Biblical teaching (which we PRAY you would never do, or allow)

.....
The Church should indeed have OPEN DOORS, all should be welcomed into the Church.... and everyone being a sinner, everyone should be received with love and compassion and full pastoral caring

but as Jesus said when welcoming and receiving and extending compassionate pastral care to a sinner,
“go and sin no more!”

welcome people into the Church, but maintain the correct teachings. they are coming to the Church, they are to be helped and lifted up.... we are not supposed to descend to their level of sins....we are to try to stengthen them, not enable them in an open course of continued transgressions

Prayerfully yours,
fhc


36 posted on 10/05/2015 11:58:05 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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Jesus CHRIST is the same yesterday and today and forever. (Heb. 13:8)

Maybe Papa should spend more time in GOD’s Word, and less time seeking to please men.


37 posted on 10/05/2015 12:01:29 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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Standing up for marriage and family means you lose 2%, the homosexuals, and 5%-10% who steadfastly support them to justify their own sexual freedom. Another 10% ignore right and wrong to pursue fairness, tolerance, change, etc.
But the 70-80% that realize the value of traditional family will embrace the church for standing up for the traditional family.


38 posted on 10/05/2015 12:13:20 PM PDT by tbw2
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Is he a Pope or a tour guide???????????????


39 posted on 10/05/2015 12:15:01 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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Ahhh, NO. I will follow the Bible not a worldly man.


40 posted on 10/05/2015 12:15:10 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Doesn’t the Catholic Church have some sort of impeachment process?


42 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:11 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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We are all sinners, and so we need to get our own houses in order - each of us. If we do that, we will change the world.


43 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:28 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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This fellow likes to throw mush on the wall that can be interpreted ten ways from Sunday. His 'progressive' (read that 'atheist') fan-club, will read this that the 'Church' needs to adopt the ways of the 'Church of What is Happening Now', and become Social Clubs. Others will scratch their heads and give him the benefit of the doubt regarding some shoddy translations and give weight to his comments "...calling for courage that "does not let itself be intimidated by the seductions of the world" and passing fads..."

Francis is intentionally obtuse.

44 posted on 10/05/2015 12:27:48 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Wonder what he wants to change??


45 posted on 10/05/2015 12:41:59 PM PDT by ealgeone
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Just pay attention to what he (Francis) says (the portion in quotes). It’s not that hard.

Or not, if you wish to believe something differently.

Everyone (on FR) should note though that Reuters yet again has inserted their own editorializing and agenda into this “article”.

I can remember when everyone here knew that about Reuters. And could also spot it with ease.

Whatever though. If it helps you sleep better at night to believe (with Reuters’ “help”) he’s...whatever you want to believe he’s doing...ok!

Good luck with that.


47 posted on 10/05/2015 12:45:40 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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Change is the gospel, as written. It is God, the unchanging Rock of our Salvation. Changing people lives with the Good News!
Fundamental Christian beliefs do not change or we are condemned to hell.


49 posted on 10/05/2015 1:11:11 PM PDT by vpintheak (A Free Man!)
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When I converted to Catholicism, the teacher of the RCIA class was a wise, wonderful old priest who said, “The church is not a museum for saints. It is a hospital for sinners.”
I think this is what Francis is trying to express, and of course the lefty media want to blur the distinction between sin and sinner.

He is not saying sin is no longer sinful. He has stated —repeatedly—that the church’s position on homosexuality has not and will not change.
Likewise the church’s position on mercy and forgiveness.
“Neither do I condemn you. Go, and sin no more.”
What he’s saying IS biblical, which is precisely why the media don’t understand it and insist on politicizing it.
He is inviting sinners to come into the church, lay their sins at the foot of the Cross, and be healed.


50 posted on 10/05/2015 1:15:37 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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Man remaking its “God” in mans image never ends well
51 posted on 10/05/2015 1:16:51 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriots are in rebellion... teach him why)
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