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Statement of the Russian Orthodox Church on the Oregon Mass Murder of Christians
ROC ^ | 10-02-2015 | Russian Orthodox Church

Posted on 10/04/2015 11:16:20 AM PDT by NRx

The Russian Orthodox Church is deeply grieved to learn about the terrible terrorist action in a college in the state of Oregon in the United States, in which peaceful people were killed. What makes the tragedy even graver is that the killer consciously chose to victimize young people who confess Christianity. This glaring inhuman act confirms once again that Christianity has become the most persecuted religion in the world. Extremists in various parts of the world increasingly seek to provoke hatred and enmity among religions and nations, for which they are ready to commit the most inhuman evil deeds.

The Moscow Patriarchate again and again calls the world community to pay attention to the importance of protecting Christians against terror. We keep reminding the powers that be and religious and public leaders of the responsibility lying on their shoulders for the peaceful co-existence between people of different religions, ethnoses and cultures. At the same time, we believe that the terrorist actions committed in the recent time in various countries of the world were provoked by the political and social chaos created by external forces in a number of countries in the Middle East and Northern Africa.

The Russian Orthodox Church is grieving together with the American people for those who were killed and praying for the recovery of the injured and for the consolation of the families and friends of the victims of the terrorist action. We hope that the authorities of the United States of America will take measures to prevent such tragedies and ensure a peaceful and safe life for Christians and people of other traditional religions.


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: martyrdom; martyrs; oregon; orthodoxchurch; roc; russia; russianorthodox; umpqua
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To: NRx
I won't get into questioning your numbers, but it is a known historical fact that the KGB infiltrated all the churches in the Soviet Union. The ROC is special in the sense that it became an arm of the KGB.
21 posted on 10/04/2015 12:48:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: NRx

Thank you.


22 posted on 10/04/2015 12:51:46 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I think you are confusing the ROC with the window dressing the Soviets put up and called the ROC. The real Russian Orthodox Church was to be found in the thousands of mass graves all over the USSR. Suggesting that the real church was the four hundred or so apostate clergy and bishops propped up by the NKVD is frankly rather insulting.


23 posted on 10/04/2015 1:01:25 PM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: NRx
Under the Communists somewhere between 12-20 million people were murdered in Russia for their faith. The vast majority of those were Orthodox Christians. EVERY BISHOP that attended the great council (sobor) of 1917 was either murdered outright or died in a Soviet concentration camp.

Then why is KGB/FSB Putin so disappointed that the Soviet Union no longer exists? Why does he think Stalin, the guy who headed the S.U. during their worst years, deserves statues in his honor?
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...

"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."

"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.

If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."

http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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“The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century',” Putin said in 2005.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor "

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html

24 posted on 10/04/2015 1:02:06 PM PDT by ETL (Too many idiots, not enough time)
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To: 1rudeboy

A nearby banker and his wife adopted 2 boys from there.


25 posted on 10/04/2015 1:06:01 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: NRx
The ROC is still an arm of the Russian Foreign Ministry, to this date. Frankly, I find any suggestion otherwise rather insulting.
27 posted on 10/04/2015 1:07:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ETL

FSB has been noted as having this killers name listed as ISIS/L supporter...anyone else seen that. ..


28 posted on 10/04/2015 1:10:44 PM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: NRx

But the tears of ROC supporters taste better. Thanks.


30 posted on 10/04/2015 1:13:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: goodnesswins
FSB has been noted as having this killers name listed as ISIS/L supporter...anyone else seen that. ..

The FSB stated somewhere that Putin is a supporter of ISIS? Is that what you're saying?

31 posted on 10/04/2015 1:17:47 PM PDT by ETL (Too many idiots, not enough time)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yes, we do shed tears. Tears for the millions murdered by the Communists that you seem to think were our friends. Your celebration of those tears says a great deal.


32 posted on 10/04/2015 1:18:20 PM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: NRx
How the Russian Orthodox Church answers Putin's prayers in Ukraine.

Crocodile tears.

33 posted on 10/04/2015 1:20:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ETL

No...the Oregon shooter on the FSB List


34 posted on 10/04/2015 1:21:58 PM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: NRx
You may read this: “Chekists in Cassocks: The Orthodox Church and the KGB”
https://www.gwu.edu/~ieresgwu/assets/docs/demokratizatsiya%20archive/01-04_armes.pdf

and this http://www.newsweek.com/putins-god-squad-orthodox-church-and-russian-politics-64649

It is not easy to be a Orthodox Christian and stay away from Kreml.

35 posted on 10/04/2015 1:31:49 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: NRx

I remember there were quite a few Russian immigrants in Oregon in the 60’s when I lived there.


36 posted on 10/04/2015 2:01:43 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: 1rudeboy

“American churches speak for themselves.”

Really? Where are the churches when babies are butchered and sold for profit by Planned Parenthood, an organization financed by the tax dollars of Christians? Not a peep from America’s churches. If Christians really cared, there would be millions in the streets protesting this inhumanity toward “the least of these,” the unborn. We will have to answer to God for our cruel indifference to the suffering of these children.


37 posted on 10/04/2015 2:37:26 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

Oh, dear. Please try to remain focused.


38 posted on 10/04/2015 2:38:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: NRx; doc maverick; lightman

Thanks for standing up for the truth of Christ!!!!

In the former communist realm, it was hard to escape the threats and seductions of the communist state. For example, the Lutheran churches in East Germany were full of pastors who were Stasi agents and informers. But some of these agents helped make the 1989 revolution against communism!

How much more so with the Orthodox Church! The Orthodox Church is the true Church of the Apostles and Saints, glorified with prophetic saints, thousands of martyrs, true miracles, and saints who die leaving incorrupt bodies—in EVERY generation!!!! Many Orthodox laity experience God directly every week in Divine Liturgy and in the Orthodox Mysteries (Sacraments).

Christ has promised that the gates of hell shall not prevail over the Holy Orthodox Church!!!!

The renewal and revival of the Holy Orthodox Church in once officially atheist Russia stands as one of the great miracles of our age. A few bishops who were KGB agents change NOTHING of any substance!!!! Nor does the history of Stalin’s involvement—quite the opposite, really!

As for Vladimir Putin, see, for example,

http://www.unz.com/article/examining-the-hatred-of-vladimir-putin-and-russia/

Now let’s look at our beloved, bur fallen America. We have leaders who favor the Sodomites at every turn, even establishing same-sex “marriage” and doing everything possible to censor, silence, and criminalize Christians who speak or act against this. The same leaders favor violent islam over Christians as well.

Even when a mentally-ill individual wants to extract “meaning” for his sorry life by perpetrating a mass school shooting, he targets Christians!!!! Why is this? Is it open season on Christians? Or did Satan tell him to target us?

Then all the pundits pile onto the story, blaming “guns” (in a gun-free zone) and “white male violence” (when the perpetrator was black). Not ONE of them mentions that the perpetrator targeted Christians!!!!

They leave it up to the Russian Orthodox Church to do that for them!!!!

Then the other class of “usual subjects” say that the Russian Orthodox Church is a “KGB plot” anyway, so anything they say is nothing but “propaganda”!!!

These “usual subjects” are inadvertently supporting the lies and machinations of Hillary clinton and obama, who are laughing at them with total contempt!!!!

It’s time to WAKE UP!!!!


39 posted on 10/04/2015 3:12:57 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Ad Orientam; antonius; aposiopetic; arielguard; bad company; blinachka; bob808; Brad's Gramma; ...
Orthodox Ping!

Save Thy people, O Lord,
and bless Thine inheritance.
Grant victory to Thy Church over her enemies,
and protect Thy people by Thy Holy Cross!

40 posted on 10/04/2015 4:07:57 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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