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POPE FRANCIS FOR YEAR OF MERCY GRANTS THAT SSPX PRIESTS CAN VALIDLY ABSOLVE!
WDTPRS ^ | September 1, 2015 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 09/01/2015 3:53:50 AM PDT by NYer

Huge news. This was under embargo till noon, Rome time, which must be honored. [UPDATE: The Bollettino is now available HERE]

The Year of Mercy begins 8 December 2015 until 20 November 2016.

It is about to be announced that the Holy Father has sent a letter to Archbishop Rino Fisichella, President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of the New Evangelization about the upcoming Extraordinary Year of Mercy.

In this letter the Pope says that he is granting to all priests the faculty to absolve from the sin of abortion.  He writes: “I have decided, notwithstanding anything to the contrary, to concede to all priests for the Jubilee Year the discretion to absolve of the sin of abortion those who have procured it and who, with contrite heart, seek forgiveness for it.”  Interesting way to word it.

He also says that the faithful may go to … well… read it yourself.  Here is a screenshot from the doc:

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This is HUGE news.

Let’s examine this.

First, note the language.  This letter says that he hopes that the SSPX will be reconciled.  He says that he hears good things about the priests of the SSPX.  But he says that the faithful may approach the priests of the SSPX for the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Penance) and that they shall validly and licitly receive absolution.  He doesn’t say that he is granting the priests the faculty to receive sacramental confessions.  He places the emphasis on the faithful.  In effect, the priests are being given the faculty to hear confessions, but there is a different emphasis.  I have the sense that it is the need of the faithful who otherwise might not go to a non-SSPX priest that the Holy Father is stressing.  Think about the case of a person who is dying and there is, say, an ex-priest -a guy who was “laicized” because he committed certain crimes, present, the Church’s laws says that in the circumstances of the person’s danger of death any validly ordained priest automatically has the faculty validly to absolve.  The need of the dying person is of such overwhelming importance that the law itself grants the ex-priest (or suspended priest, etc.) the faculty.  The stress is on the need of the dying person, not on the priest.  I think this is an analogous situation.

Along with this, the fact of Pope Francis’ move, together with the wording, confirms what I have been saying all along about the priests of the SSPX: they do not and have not had the faculty validly to absolve sins!  The fact that this is being granted for the Year of Mercy bears out what I have been saying.

That said, if the Holy Father is willing to go this far with the priests of the SSPX, is it hard to imagine that this merciful concession might not be extended beyond the Year of Mercy?  I would like to think so!

Next, this concession also underscores a point I have been making all along.  If only Nixon could go to China, perhaps Pope Francis is the Pope who will reconcile the SSPX!

Additionally, this could irritate some bishops in, say, France… Germany….  And even though this may not be well received in certain circles, the Pope is doing it anyway.

Moreover, earlier in his pontificate, this Pope was pretty hard on priests.  He seemed to be bashing them on a daily basis.   This move to grant all priests in the world the faculty to lift the censure which results from procuring an abortion is a sign of his confidence in priests… for a change.

I take heart from this bold move – which makes so much sense (to me at least) – in favor of the access the faithful will have to sacrament of penance.  I hope that it will also spark a wider discussion on the positive things that will come from the reconciliation of the SSPX.  I hope that discussion takes place even among the SSPXers themselves.

May all the followers of the SSPX , please God, look at this move with joy and with gratitude for the concern the Pope is showing to them.

And… to everyone… GO TO CONFESSION!

But… remember, the Year of Mercy hasn’t started yet and the SSPX does not yet have their faculty.  GO TO CONFESSION with priest with faculties!

UPDATE 1020 UTC:

The Fishwrap has posted on this now. They get it wrong, of course. They openly call the SSPXers “schismatic”.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; francis; pope; popefrancis; sspx; vatican
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To: Elsie
Not if your mind and heart aren't open to it... 😢
141 posted on 09/02/2015 8:14:07 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Elsie
" Makes perfect sense to me. "

You forgot the sarc tag, my friend. Our Church seems to make no sense to you at all- but we love ya anyway!

🚸 💒 👫👪 👫👪 💞

142 posted on 09/02/2015 8:26:57 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Kolokotronis

Please supply a link when posting quotes in the Religion Forum.

Thank you.


143 posted on 09/02/2015 8:30:35 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: ealgeone; Jeff Chandler; Elsie
" If you are catholic.......have you committed a mortal sin in your prejorative term against Elsie and myself? "

Whatever it was that was said, be it venial or mortal, if it was a sin it is between his Confessor in persona Christi, himself, and those to which an apology is deserved.

As to this discussion, it, per usual, has become far from civil. Would that it had been a caucus, that we may share our Faith with other practicing Catholics and with invited commenters, who politely add to the discussion, and ask pertinent, respectful questions.

Even then, our caucuses become infringed upon by non-qualified FReepers, do they not?

God bless you all!
Grateful

144 posted on 09/02/2015 8:44:02 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Elsie
" Somehow I've missed Mary; Mother of Mercy "

She hasn't"missed"you, Elsie! She loves you, and when God calls you home, you'll see her! She is the mother of He Who is merciful-who is Mercy Itself; it is our sin from Adam that could only be removed by her Son's Incarnation, Life, Passion, Death and Resurrection. Our sins killed her Son. Would we not also need forgiveness for such an atrocity as the created torturing and murdering its Creator?
It's true, though you cry out from the house tops that you don't believe. You will someday...

145 posted on 09/02/2015 8:53:59 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: ealgeone
" Cannot catholicism withstand scrutiny? "

It has withstood heresy, persecution, false witness and all other evils, from its inception to this very day. We're still here- much to the chagrin of our detractors throughout the world, and to subversives from within.

While 2.1 billion people cannot always agree, we do not have thousands of denominations, and over-the-phone certification as a tax-exempt "Reverend". Who scrutinizes them? Who scrutinizes the self-interpreters who remain on their own and thus fly under the radar? As a non Catholic, perhaps those are the questions that should be asked...

G-d ♡ bless you!
Grateful ✟ ✡

146 posted on 09/02/2015 9:11:37 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Elsie

AW, c’mon, Elsie! You just love a good rhubarb- like ‘Brenner and Billy Martin!


147 posted on 09/02/2015 9:14:51 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Grateful2God

How do you define “uncivil”?


148 posted on 09/02/2015 9:17:29 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: delchiante

Seems like “Rome”’is responsible for a lot of what ills this world.

Is Rome also responsible for Katrina? For the national debt? For homelessness? I thought they were all Bush’s fault.


149 posted on 09/02/2015 9:17:31 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Grateful2God; Elsie; metmom; daniel1212
If, as you say, catholicism has withstood all you noted, how is it that a small number of non-catholics seem to drive yall up the wall so much?

It seems Catholics want to be able to post on this forum with no questioning of their beliefs

That's not gonna happen for roman catholicism anymore than it would for Islam, Mormonism, Methodists, Baptists, PCUSA, etc.

on another thread a prominent person was admitted to be on the cheating website. He is being heavily criticized.

Can rcc not take the heat??

150 posted on 09/02/2015 9:24:23 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie

How about adding the following to your collection of Augustine quotes:

” . . . there are many other things which most justly keep me in her (the Catholic Church’s) bosom . . . The succession of priests keeps me, beginning from the very seat of the Apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after His resurrection, gave it in charge to feed His sheep, down to the present episcopate. (Against the Epistle of Manchaeus Called Fundamental [Contra Epistolam Manichaei Quam Vacant Fundamenti.] http://www.gnosis.org/library/contfe.htm


151 posted on 09/02/2015 9:28:06 AM PDT by rwa265 (This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:12)
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To: ealgeone
" And please, no appeal to Luke 1:28 "

Making the rules now? Or is it because:

" Luther ascribed to several books of the New Testament different degrees of doctrinal value: "St. John's Gospel and his first Epistle, St. Paul's Epistles, especially those to the Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, and St. Peter's Epistle-these are the books which show to thee Christ, and teach everything that is necessary and blessed for thee to know, even if you were never to see or hear any other book of doctrine. Therefore, St. James' Epistle is a perfect straw-epistle compared with them, for it has in it nothing of an evangelic kind." Thus Luther was comparing (in his opinion) doctrinal value, not canonical validity. " Luther did not ascribe the same doctrinal value to the other Gospels?

So disregard Luke's account of the Incarnation of Jesus. I cannot choose for you- nor you for me!

G-d ♡ bless you!
Grateful ✟ ✡

152 posted on 09/02/2015 9:36:43 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: ealgeone
Do we not have the privilege of an uninterrupted discussion, as you would in caucus? Are you all averse to us discussing amongst ourselves without the usual off-track slurs? Yeah, it's annoying. A threat- no. Islam, which you graced with a capital letter, is a threat to all Christians. Faceless words and snarks on a web server, nah! Heck, I even talk to the Mormons and JW when they come to my door- and I treat them with dignity and respect- a lot more respect than Catholics get from our usual online detractors!

G-d ♡ bless you!
Grateful ✟ ✡

153 posted on 09/02/2015 9:50:52 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: ealgeone
" how is it that a small number of non-catholics seem to drive yall up the wall so much? "

How is it that they feel the necessity to try and do so?

154 posted on 09/02/2015 9:53:14 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: Grateful2God

Catholic apologists admit you cannot look to Luke 1:28 and find the IC there....or anywhere in Scripture. That’s why I said no appeal to Luke.


155 posted on 09/02/2015 9:53:17 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Grateful2God
I did not call out any individual, but rather attached a label to people who would ruin yet another thread by turning it into a denominational mud wrestling match. It's tedious—it really is, and I make no apology for correctly identifying the behavior.
156 posted on 09/02/2015 9:53:57 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (http://www.freerepublic.com/~jeffchandler/)
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To: Grateful2God
If catholics want the conversation you desire hide the discussion behind the caucus protection.

I like these open threads as I learn from them. They make you do your homework which some in these threads don't want to do.

I prefer the discussion to be akin to what Paul did. He went to the public forum with his case for Christ.

157 posted on 09/02/2015 9:56:48 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Religion Moderator

Hey, how about instituting an Interdenominational Feud Caucus category to which we can confine these theological cat fights?


158 posted on 09/02/2015 9:56:56 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (http://www.freerepublic.com/~jeffchandler/)
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To: Grateful2God
Now we have to bring in Luther! The catholic fall back position. One day he's a good guy, next day he's evil. Poor fellow doesn't know if he's in or out with catholics.
159 posted on 09/02/2015 10:00:35 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“If, as you say, catholicism has withstood all you noted, how is it that a small number of non-catholics seem to drive yall up the wall so much?”

Well, most normal people are bothered by lying, misrepresentations, half-truths, distortions, stupidity, foolishness, delusions bordering on mental illness, and lack of education - you know, all those traits that anti-Catholics have in spades.


160 posted on 09/02/2015 10:06:59 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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