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We Will Not Bow
Grace To You ^ | July 19, 2015 | John MacArthur

Posted on 07/25/2015 7:40:29 AM PDT by daniel1212

This country talks a lot about terrorist attacks—and rightly so. Almost anybody in America can give you some kind of a listing of the most destructive acts of terror that have happened in our country. But let me suggest to you this: The two greatest attacks of terror on America were perpetrated by the Supreme Court. Not by any Muslim, but by the Supreme Court of the United States. The first one was the legalizing of abortion. Subsequent to that, there have been millions of babies slaughtered in the wombs of their mothers. It’s incalculable to even comprehend that. The blood of those lives cries out from the ground for divine vengeance on this nation.

The second great act of terror perpetrated by the Supreme Court was the legalization of same-sex marriage. The destruction of human life in the womb—in a sense, the destruction of motherhood—and now the destruction of the family itself. No bomb, no explosion, no attack, and no assault on people physically can come anywhere near that kind of terrorism. Our country is being terrorized by the people most responsible to protect it—those who are to uphold the law.

...They have usurped the authority that belongs only to God, who is the creator of life, marriage, and family. Any and all attempts to define morality differently than God has is a form of rebellion and blasphemy—blasphemy against God, against His holy nature, and His holy law, and His holy people.

This nation, at its highest level, has taken a position against God. Such blasphemous rebellion is energized—it is energized by the corruption of the collection of sinful hearts, which make up this nation or any nation. There’s no question about that. But behind that collection of sinful, corrupt, human hearts—that make this kind of thing possible and acceptable—is the realm of Satan and demons. The Bible says Satan holds the whole world in his hands; the whole world lies in the lap of the evil one.

God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit, and the Bible, and the church, and truth are the enemies of Satan. And Satan rules the world. He rules the world of sinners. And he has his power in high places. He is the ruler of the kingdom of darkness, and he hates and seeks to destroy all that is light, all that is truth, all that is pure, all that is holy, all that is virtuous, and all that is good.

I’m saying all of this to let you know that you don’t need to be surprised. I admit, that for a few hundred year America had a very rare reprieve from this normal kind of conflict that most of the world has always known. But that reprieve has come to a screeching halt.

And I want to remind you that homosexuality, homosexual marriage, gender transition—these are not the real battlegrounds. The real battle ground is against God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit, and the Bible, and the church, and the gospel. Any blasphemy against God comes from God haters, Christ haters, Bible haters, gospel haters. And they are fueled by the arch-hater, Satan himself.

Since marriage is vital to God’s design, for ordered society, sensible civilization—civilization able to enjoy common grace—since marriage is, by God’s design, His way to pass on order, to pass on peace, to pass on temporal blessing, and even to pass on righteousness from one generation to the next, family has always been under assault, under assault.

Since Genesis, God makes it very clear: He made them male and female—male, female. Nothing in the middle. Male, female. He said marriage is when a male and female come together and create a union for life and have children. That’s marriage. But you don’t get very far in Genesis until you run into polygamy, incest, prostitution, rampant homosexuality by the nineteenth chapter of Genesis. All the deviations, all the perversions are in the book of Genesis—after the Fall.

These have always been the corruptions that have marked human society. Again, in America and the Western world, we’ve had a bit of a reprieve because of the prevailing influence of Christian morality. The objective of Satan, the objective of demons, and consequently, the objective of all who are the subjects of Satan—the children of Satan, as they’re called in Scripture—is to destroy everything that God has made. They are the enemies of God and Christ and the truth of Scripture and the gospel.

The objective is not simply to redefine gender. The objective is not simply to redefine marriage. The objective is to destroy what God has designed....

The goal is the total elimination of all marriage, which then means you don’t possess any privacy. You don’t have that small, sovereign unit, and your children are not yours. They’re public children and they belong to the education system; and they belong to the country; and they belong to the village—but not to you. And so, when they’re fifteen in the state of Oregon they can have a sex change without telling their parents—and the state will do it and pay for it.

This is not about same-sex marriage. This is about the total obliteration of the family. So that there will be no more family, no more covenants. No more private, sovereign units that stand up against the corruption. If you go back to contraception, you go back to where this all began. It is the product, admittedly, of the feminist movement. Go back through contraception; now when contraception comes in, you have sex without children. For the first time, the greatest restraint against having sex is eliminated. The greatest natural restraint against having sex with just anybody any time was children will be produced possibly.

So, contraception comes along and you can have sex without children. But that’s not enough; that doesn’t cover enough ground because that’s not complete enough, so you add abortion. And now you can have sex without children and if it misses and you do have a child conceived, just kill it.

We’ve come all the way from sex without children to, listen to this, children without sex. You can manufacture a baby. Two lesbians can have a baby. A lesbian can have planted in her womb a living being from somebody else. Children can be manufactured. The normal reason for marriage, a man and a woman coming together to produce children, has been completely convoluted. Most people, it seems to me, would rather have a dog. So now you can have sex without children, and now you can have children without sex. You can just make them. Why do you need a family? Why do you need a husband? Why do you need a wife?

We’re at about fifty percent of children in America now are born without married parents. It’s going to get worse and worse and worse as marriage disappears. Why get married? Too many complications. Too many questions. Too binding. People say, “Well the government shouldn’t even be in this.” You’re right, the government should be in this, and they’ll get out of it fast enough. And people will be able to make any kind of contract they want, make any arrangement they want. Same sex. Opposite sex. Polygamy. People will—you watch—marry their dogs, their horses. Because Satan just wants to completely obliterate marriage.

It’s not new. It’s Genesis 19. Homosexuality. And God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah over this sin. They tried to rape angels in Sodom—angels who took on human form to come to Sodom. The homosexuals in Sodom were blinded by God and in their blindness they tried to rape the angels. The Old Testament is not unclear on this issue. Let me just read something to you that maybe you don’t know exists. It’s in Deuteronomy, chapter 22—I’ll just read it to you—verse 5: “A woman shall not wear man’s clothing.” Is that hard to understand? “A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.”

Transvestism, as it used to be called, is not new. By the way, it is an abomination. That abomination is the exact same word used in Leviticus 18 to refer to homosexuality.

There were men who wanted to dress like women then. There were women who wanted to dress like men. Actually, Deuteronomy 22:5 is more general than clothing. The Hebrew actually says, “It’s not right to wear or to take on to oneself that which appertains to a man.” Anything that is male a female should not adopt; anything that is female a male should not adopt.

There were even people in ancient times, referred to in the book of Deuteronomy who were emasculated—who were deprived of their male-ness, involuntarily or voluntarily. Deuteronomy 23:1 says, any emasculated man was forbidden to enter the assembly of the Lord, forbidden to enter the assembly of the Lord.

These kinds of sins that blur the clear distinction between male and female are satanic...

isten to a translation of Phyllo: “Another evil, much greater than that which we have already mentioned, has made its way among, and been let loose upon cities, namely the love of boys, which formally was accounted a great infamy, even to be spoken of, but which since is a subject of boasting—not only to those who practice it, but even to those who suffer it. And who being accustomed to bearing the affliction of being treated like women waste away as to their souls and bodies, not bearing about them a single spark of manly character to be kindled into a flame. But having even the hair of their heads conspicuously curled and adorned, and having their faces smeared with vermillion and paint and things of that kind, and having their eyes penciled beneath, and having their skin anointed with fragrant perfumes, it is all a most seductive quality. And then being well appointed in everything that tends to beauty or elegance—and they are not ashamed to devote their constant study and endeavors to the task of changing their manly character into an effeminate one.” Nothing new. Nothing new....

The people in our country tasked with the responsibility of thinking clearly for everybody else—the President, the leaders, the Supreme Court, those who are supposed to be the most clear-minded, clear-headed, who have the greatest responsibility to protect this nation—they literally can’t think straight. The reprobate mind has ascended the bench.

I received a letter from a judge this week—a very significant judge in a very significant court. And he said in his letter, “One of the duties of a judge is to marry people. I am now under government mandate to marry people of the same sex. I cannot do that. I cannot do that.” He will lose his position. Clerks, Christian clerks across the country, who issue marriage licenses, and can’t do that either, are losing their jobs. The takeover is going to be massive. Christian people in high places are going to be replaced by people who will do what this court says you must do.

I wrote him a letter back and I said, “I honor you, Sir. I honor you because you have ascended to that level of responsibility. You’ve shown common sense and wisdom and astuteness and brilliance in your field of law. And you have been given the trust of the people because of what you have demonstrated, and now because of the quality and character of your virtue, you will be replaced, essentially, by someone with no virtue.”

Get ready folks, the reprobate mind has now reached the highest levels. And that level will demand the reprobate mind everywhere else. And where that mind dominates—the end of Romans 1, where there is a depraved mind—then everything that’s improper begins to happen....

There isn’t a just a judge, there isn’t a sitting judge on the Supreme Court who doesn’t know what the Bible says about homosexuality. But they affirm it anyway. That’s the reprobate mind. And it’s now going to dominate our society...

At the seminary, we put an article up on the seminary website about homosexuality. Within a matter of hours, we received a letter ordering us to cease and desist immediately or face a very severe lawsuit. Could we be sued for taking this position? Absolutely. Insurance companies that provide liability insurances for churches so that we’re protected against lawsuits are beginning to say, “We will not accept responsibility for lawsuits on homosexual or same-sex marriage issues.” The church is out there all on its own....

The government provides student loans for students at Christian colleges. But if that school or that college doesn’t affirm same-sex marriage, and have open enrollment to homosexuals, they can cut off all that funding—Cal grants, Pell grants—which enable students to go to college. This is going to come. We enjoy, as a church, a beautiful campus, large piece of property. We don’t pay property tax, because we’re granted freedom from that tax. How long will that remain if we don’t comply?

We are the target now. We’re in the bullseye. And there’s no deception; this is how it really is. Now, just to make it clear: We don’t bow down to Caesar. We bow to our king. We do not…[applause]

I was reading about a Christian college that was confronted on this issue and was told, you will lose your accreditation if you do not immediately provide complete acceptance for homosexuals, and allow them to conduct themselves any way they want in your dorms. The school, when it was founded in 1885, the name of it was the Boston Missionary Training School. Here we are 130 years later, and that school proudly came up with fourteen pro-homosexual initiatives to keep their accreditation. What happened to the Boston Missionary Training School? They bowed....

Faithful people didn’t bow down. Mordecai didn’t bow down. Daniel didn’t bow down; his friends didn’t bow down. Jesus didn’t bow down. Paul didn’t bow down.

There will be a barrage of persecution. These are going to be very challenging days. We will not bow. We will be gracious and we will be loving, but we will render to God what is God’s.

So, what do we do? Well, I want to focus on something tonight that I think is very important. God pronounces judgment on all who blaspheme Him—all who pervert His law, pervert His Word. He pronounces judgment on them. Not only in a temporal sense, such as in Romans 1, where you have an outworking of wrath in the very society itself, but in an eternal sense. In Isaiah 5 we have a series of woes, a series of severe condemnations. One them is in chapter 5 and verse 20. Listen to this: “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!” Woe—damnation, cursing—on those who reverse morality, who reverse righteousness, who swap good for evil. It was the calling of the Old Testament prophets to pronounce damnation on sinful people, sinful nations—to declare coming judgment. We know that; we read the prophets. In the New Testament, Jesus pronounced judgment. And the epistles of the New Testament are full of warnings of judgment.

I’m hearing an awful lot from evangelical Christians these days, reading a lot of articles, that we need to be compassionate toward people in gender transition, which does not exist. We need to be compassionate toward people caught up in homosexuality. I agree. I agree. And the most compassionate thing you can do for those people is, in love, to warn them of eternal damnation—to warn them of eternal judgment. That’s compassionate. That’s compassionate. Preach the gospel; proclaim the gospel; proclaim grace and forgiveness such as we read in Isaiah and 1 Corinthians. But preach judgment...

I’m just telling you that we’d better get ready, because we may be living this very soon. And by the way, it’s not going to take long for this to unfold. Once the Supreme Court made the decision, they were ready. They were standing in the wings with everything ready, and it’s going to come like a blitzkrieg. The end of verse 5 says, they were suffering, suffering. Suffering and worthy of the kingdom of God for the way in which they suffered....

The godly in the Old Testament understood the justice of God’s wrath. When God reveals to Jeremiah that some are plotting his death. Jeremiah prays, “O Lord of hosts, who judges righteously, who tries the heart and the mind, let me see your vengeance on them, for to you I’ve committed my cause.” And God replied to Jeremiah. “I will punish them. The young men will die by the sword, the sons and daughters will die by famine, and none of them will be left.”...

We’re just passing through, aren’t we? We’re just passing through. He’s going to be glorified in His saints; His saints glorified in Him. This is how we have to live, people. We live above the world. We’re in the world; we’re not of the world. We’re in the world—we love the world with a gospel love. We’re in the world, and we love them enough not only to preach grace and the gospel, we love them enough to tell them about eternal judgment—hell, fire.

That’s not what you’re going to see happening in the evangelical world. Already, I’m seeing all kinds of responses that we need to be sympathetic to people who are going through gender transition, which doesn’t exist. It’s a perversion. It’s a corruption. It’s a deviation. It’s a blasphemy....

Let me give you a little hint. If you’ve got boys, you better be sure they become men. If you’ve got girls, you better be sure they become women. Don’t let them be tempted to this deviation and corruption. You never thought you’d have to fight that, did you? That’s where we are.

Our Lord is coming.

When we think about things the way they are, we would all say, “Even so, come, Lord Jesus,” right? We’re ready. Get us out...

May we be faithful to preach the gospel of loving grace and the threat of eternal judgment. And Lord Jesus, be glorified in your church, and Lord, be glorified in the world. Come quickly. Come quickly. Amen.

(Copyright 2015, Grace to You. All rights reserved. Used by permission.)


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; sodom; sotus; sotuslgaymarriage; supremecourt
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To: daniel1212
The two greatest attacks of terror on America were perpetrated by the Supreme Court. Not by any Muslim, but by the Supreme Court of the United States.

Muslims killed about 3,000 one day about 14 years ago.

CHOICE kills 110% of that amount

EVERY DAY in this country.


21 posted on 07/25/2015 1:08:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: left that other site
"However, the “terrorism” comparison enters the equation when individuals are forced to, not only participate, but celebrate something that is against their deeply held beliefs."

Just because I don't care what the states allows, does not mean I don not care what the state compels.

And, of course if that's the driving concern, I'm totally on board.

But I suspect that's not the principal motive for many.

I'm Christian, but when I hear Christians talking about using the power of the state to forbid things that harm nobody but the perp, I get very uneasy.

Yeah, I understand the concept of cultural harm, societal harm etc.

But I am not my brothers babysitter and I will not allow him to be mine.

22 posted on 07/25/2015 1:09:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: daniel1212

Good post. Thanks!


23 posted on 07/25/2015 1:12:56 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mariner

I think God blesses a country that honors Him, and will destroy a country that USED to honor Him. This is a sign how far America has fallen. It also means open persecution of Christians has arrived. Not will arrive, but HAS arrived. Make an open statement critical of homosexuality, and see how quickly you and your business will come under attack.


24 posted on 07/25/2015 1:16:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: daniel1212

One can only say “Amen” to this preaching.

While some may disagree with some of his positions, John MacArthur is one of the few preachers left that lays it on the line.


25 posted on 07/25/2015 1:46:14 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: Mariner
I agree with the contention on abortion. Terrorism. But to equate homo marriage with terrorism is simply absurd. In fact I don't care who a homo "marries", nor a good Christian. I simply cannot understand the fevered opposition.

If you do not see how SOTUS penalizing any state that will not sanction as marriage the union of sodomites then you have a very superficial understanding of what this represents. But perhaps you see no value in the Bible being the tested transcendent moral standard for moral laws, even if according to principles.

It would seem that you disagree that Godliness and morality is a country's greatest strength (not simply in terms of power), and that the overall character of a country, and that the Hollywoods and the purveyors and purchasers of perversion within a country, and a far greater threat then enemies without, and that moral decline accompanied every nation that itself eventually went South.

Sexually joining together what God has placed asunder is the capstone of the demonic liberal overthrowing of traditional Biblical morality, which has already cost American greatly in souls, lives and money , and dignifying it by affording it the title of marriage, and requiring the entire nation to do so, is indeed an act of terrorism against both Constitutional freedom (with its basis and necessary limits) and Biblical morality which only blesses a country, and requiring all states to basically salute the flag of Sodom will have effects which are far more detrimental to American society than any physical act of terrorism has.

Men having sex with men (MSM) has itself already been primarily responsible for the death of over 600,000 Americans, and despite attempts to tame it somewhat this unholy union is still responsible for 79% of new HIV cases. Moreover, the lifetime ( 24.2 years avg.) HIV care cost per person in optimal HIV care is now $618,900 per person. The discounted (accounting for the time-specific value of costs and benefits) lifetime cost of comprehensive treatment per HIV-infected person was $385,000. The total discounted cost, including lost productivity, of the estimated 40,000 new HIV infections expected to occur in the United States every year, was estimated to be approximately $53 billion. - http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/45/Supplement_4/S248.full. Read more: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html#ixzz3gw8eR6nE

Sodomy also typically results in a greatly increased incidence of infectious diseases and premature death, and lesbians have a much greater rate of attempted suicide.

One would think that marriage then would be favored in the interest of public health, but the homosexual reality is that marriage is not only redefined as regard what is joined together, but it is also typically not monogamous either. For one, the Gay Couples Study, followed 556 male couples for three years and found about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners. - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetro.html?_r=0

However, even if these detrimental physical effects were not seen then homosexual relationships would still be evil as that are contrary to what God has ordained. And made man and women uniquely compatible and complimentary, and they alone are joined by God in marriage, with opposite genders being specified by both Genesis and personally by Jesus Christ. (Gn. 2:18-24; Mt. 19:4) The Bible only condemns homosexual relations - by design and decree, in principle and by precept - and never sanctions them wherever they are manifestly dealt with, and the injunctions against them are part of the transcendent and immutable moral law. (Lv. 18:22; Rm. 1:26,27)

However, some of the first Christians were likely former homosexuals, (1Cor. 6:9-11) and there is room at the cross for all who want the Lord Jesus over sin, and believe upon Him to save them who died for them, and rose again. And who thus are baptized and follow Him, to the glory of God. Joining

26 posted on 07/25/2015 1:59:22 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: HarleyD; daniel1212

**While some may disagree with some of his positions, John MacArthur is one of the few preachers left that lays it on the line.**

I am one of the some, and yes, you are correct.


27 posted on 07/25/2015 2:01:50 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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To: Mariner
The state will do as the state sees fit. They will not compel you to marry a homo.

They can and have and will punish those who will not marry them, or provide what they demand in order to do so.

The devil works to created an alternative society, with his perversion of what God ordained, and in which the devil receives homage via his proxy servants.

28 posted on 07/25/2015 2:21:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Mariner

Like you, I really do care about “what the state compels”.

That is the crux of the issue.


29 posted on 07/25/2015 2:32:31 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Mariner

Yes. We have to keep on loudly proclaiming abortion for what it is - murder. Also, homo “marriage” is a blackguard travesty - no matter how many Supreme Court Justices say it’s something to be “celebrated”. - The “state” has made its decision to define something that ain’t as something that is. - It still ain’t to me. - Maranatha!


30 posted on 07/25/2015 4:55:49 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: daniel1212

Very good.


31 posted on 07/25/2015 6:15:46 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thanks be to God. 5 out of 9 SOTUS judges were not.


32 posted on 07/25/2015 6:49:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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