And those very questions make salvation conditional on works.
People are lost until they become saved. So there will be murderers and adulterers and if they don't trust in Christ and receive Him, they are going to hell.
However, once they become a Christian, a follower of Christ, born again, even if they commit those sins, and even if for some reason, they don't feel sorry for them, they are still saved.
What Catholics like to set up to try to justify works based salvation, is actually a non-existent situation.
A Christian is not going to go out and willfully, unrepentantly sin with impunity. A person with the Spirit of the living God living in them CAN'T sin callously.
Do we sin? Certainly.
Do we sometimes sin deliberately? Absolutely.
Do we sin comfortably without the conviction of the Holy Spirit making us miserable in it. No.
See, what the problem is, is the person who does not have the Holy Spirit living in them is totally incapable of understanding the change in attitude that the saved person has towards sin and the work of the Holy Spirit in that person's life when they do sin. You cannot have the Holy Spirit living in you and not know it and not have the changed life to show it.
Nobody who belongs to God sins without consequence. It's only without loss of salvation, but God will not let His own continue in sin. And coming under the conviction and chastisement of the Holy Spirit is no picnic.
We are not perfect and God knows that and He knows that we never will be until we reach heaven, so He has provided the means for dealing with sin here on earth without it costing us our salvation.
Our salvation is secure in Christ because we didn't pay for it so we can't lose it. It's a GIFT to us, and it's ours whether we appreciate it or not, but God is not an Indian giver and does not take it back if we think He deems us unworthy of it.
People set up conditions for attaining salvation and keeping it that God never did. It makes people feel good and feel in control to have some say in their own salvation. Trusting completely and fully in God's mercy and grace sounds easy and sounds like it should be easy, but we humans don't like turning over absolute control to anyone, even God.
Anyone who thinks they must do something to keep their salvation, whether it's a positive of doing something, or the negative of not doing something, in effect does NOT trust God and take Him as His word. Otherwise, they would not be trying to do something to *help* Him. People basically are even afraid to trust God completely.
**Is the unrepentant adulterer who has faith saved?**
False categories.
You can be an unrepentant adulterer
OR
You can be a repentant adulterer with faith.
The latter is saved.
Well said! Those without the Holy Spirit will soon be here telling us how we believe that a believer can wilfully do anything and still be saved.
even if they commit those sins, and even if for some reason, they don’t feel sorry for them, they are still saved.
I understand that we can commit sins and still be saved if we hate our sin and are sorry for committing them. But this is where you lose me; that we are still saved even if we don’t feel sorry for our sins?