even if they commit those sins, and even if for some reason, they don’t feel sorry for them, they are still saved.
I understand that we can commit sins and still be saved if we hate our sin and are sorry for committing them. But this is where you lose me; that we are still saved even if we don’t feel sorry for our sins?
That is a contradiction with 1John the first three or four chapters isn’t it. One of the ways we know we have His Spirit in us is that we hate our sins, even as Christ has dealt with the penalty for them and they are no more in God’s sight.
You ever been angry at someone?
Sometimes you can wrong them and not feel sorry for it.
But that doesn’t mean you’ll ALWAYS be like that.
One problem I see Catholics having is that they focus on the immediate and don’t seem to allow for the fact that, yes, at the moment someone can willfully sin and yes, at the moment, not feel sorry or repentant for it. But that doesn’t mean they never will be. Or that God doesn’t work in their lives to change their attitude.
What happens in the moment is not set in concrete, so the scenarios that Catholics set up of a believer and sin, do not allow for what could happen in the future. Nothing is as black and white as in the manufactured scenarios they present to us and demand an answer for.
So, yes, if I sin and don’t feel sorry for it at the moment, or even for a long time, I am still saved. I don’t have to repent of each and every single sin I ever committed. God gives a judicial pardon, canceling the record of debt that stands against me in a one time act.
Once I’m adopted into His family, I’m there, even if I sin. The difference is, when I do sin, God deals with it differently than revoking my salvation.
Salvation isn’t based on our feeling sorry for our sin.
We commit sin. The wages of sin is death.
When we turn to Christ for forgiveness, we confess and repent, admit to God what we did was wrong, and turn from it.
Now, you may and probably will feel sorry for your sin, but that is irrelevant.
Salvation isn’t based on emotions. It’s based on the fact of the finished work of Christ on the cross being applied to our life.
Now, once one is born again, then they will feel sorry for their sin but that isn’t what keeps one saved.
Perhaps it's like Paul stated when he said, "...For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate...."
Even though we can <>HATE! the things we once did; the DAMNED longing to do them again manages to creep into our thought processes and bedevil us!
Of course...Jesus didn't make us sinless...As you said, Jesus saves US from OUR sins...
One big problem is our definition of sin...We don't like to call those little things sin...People seem to be so ignorant of the perfect righteousness that's required for a person to be in the presence of God...
You people seems to have some skewed vision of God and put him in the abstract....
'God is the Catholic Church'...'You must eat a cracker to attain eternal life' (you won't get your filthy lips any where near a righteous God to 'sacrifice' him)...God could spit one time and drown the entire world...
God wants us to worship HIM...Are we going to do it imperfectly??? Absolutely...God judges our heart, not our appearance to you...
The Holy Spirit is ever working in the heart of the Christian to convict him/her of those things that are unpleasing to Him...If you aren't convicted of those little sins you and we all commit, you might want to question whether you are 'one of His'...
You and I commit the same sins of those you claim are ok with sin...We just don't like to call it sin...
Do you people even know what love your brother means??? Here's the definition:
Jas_4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.