I'm glad you cleared THAT up!
I had visions of the Church Lady!
Posted on 06/29/2015 6:39:59 PM PDT by Gamecock
Six people were arrested and charged with criminal trespass Sunday after heckling Joel Osteen, pastor of Lakewood Church.
Houston's ABC News Affiliate reports the disruption began following the praise and worship.
"The praise and worship was good. His wife had just delivered a quick message. And the moment he started to preach, somebody gets up and they yell, 'Joel Osteen,' you're a liar,'" said Anwar Richardson who posted a video to Twitter of one of the arrests.
Richardson, his wife, and son were visiting from Austin, Texas. With thoughts of the June 17 shooting at Charleston, South Carolina's Mother Emanuel AME church in mind, the family decided not to stay.
"After the sixth time that it occurred, my son was sleeping in my lap, and I looked at my wife and she was nervous and we just decided we have to get out of here," Richardson said.
"All I could think of is you don't know what's going on, and I just can't wait to find out, so I've gotta get out of there," he said.
Osteen reportedly told the crowd, "Thank you all for your patience, and we'll just continue to receive what God has for us. It's a good day to be alive."
Another witness commended Osteen for his composure. "He kept on going. He really got the message out and he said no weapon formed against me shall prosper. So kudos to him for delivering a good service."
A Lakewood spokesman said the hecklers were from The Church of Wells, a controversial religious group from Wells, Texas labeled by some as a cult. The church made no mention of the incident on its web site or social media outlets.
The Houston Chronicle reports people from The Church of Wells were prevented by Lakewood Church's security from entering the worship center in a separate incident approximately a month ago.
The newspaper quoted another Twitter user from Houston who decided it was not safe to stay at the June 28 service: "Had to leave @LakewoodChurch because of people randomly jumping up and verbally assaulting @JoelOsteen and it was 1st visit. Still shaking."
Osteen himself has long been the subject of controversy for preaching what many call a "prosperity gospel" message.
Southern Baptist Theological Seminary President Albert Mohler said in a blog post last fall that Osteen's message of prosperity does not differentiate between Christians and non-Christians, fails to mention sin as a fundamental human need addressed by the Gospel of Christ, and does not take into account that for most of church history Christians lived with poverty and persecution and still do in many parts of the world today.
"God's pleasure in his human creatures centers in His desire and will that they come to faith in Jesus Christ and be saved. The great dividing line in humanity is not between the rich and the poor, the sick and the well, or even the happy and the unhappy. The great divide is between those who, in Christ, have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of God's glorious light," Mohler wrote.
Members of The Church of Wells -- described by some as reformed with puritanical leanings -- have been involved in various disputes with police and have been accused by some family members of "brainwashing" vulnerable young adults. While some maintain it has the markings of a cult, others have said its leaders are young and "misguided."
“No, not all Protestants do that.”
Yes, they do - maybe not as bad as Osteen, but all do in their own Protestant way.
“Where in the world did you find that idea?”
All over - from the mouths of Protestants, posts here at Fr, Protestant books. The mistake you’re making apparently is that you think touchy-feely only applies to Osteen’s saccharine gospel is an absolute outside of every other Protestant sect. It isn’t. It’s more or less just one end of a Protestant spectrum of touchy-feely subjectivism.
“That is not what the Bible teaches.”
It sure isn’t - but it is what Protestantism teaches.
Well, since you did not get the part about me allegedly calling my fellow *Protestants to the rescue*, then it reinforces my conclusion that you were wrong about ALL Prots preaching a touchy-feely gospel.
The gospel I hear preached is repent and believe, and die to self and live to Christ.
You may consider that gospel heretical, or a false gospel, but to claim that it’s a *touchy feely* gospel is incorrect and you have been shown why.
So you are wrong and those are the reasons.
It’s a Biblical Gospel. The Papist’s ma nmade Gospel is in error.
Any group that elects a raging Socialist as head of the group is rotten to the core
Hmmm could this have been staged as a way to cover that Joel wasn’t going to say anything about the USSC ruling on same sex marriage?
“So you are wrong and those are the reasons.”
No, I’m not wrong and you presented no real reasons to believe otherwise. Have a good night.
“It’s a Biblical Gospel.”
No, it is not. There’s a reason why Alistair McGrath (who is Protestant) talked about the novum (the novelty) of Luther’s version of salvation.
“The Papist’s ma nmade Gospel is in error.”
Catholics don’t have a man-made gospel.
“Any group that elects a raging Socialist as head of the group is rotten to the core”
Well, Jesus chose Judas - and the gospel remained the same anyway. Peter could be a poor example and the gospel stayed the same.
Nobody can force you to believe the truth.
At least others will have the opportunity to see and know which is why we present it here.
Judas wasn’t the Pope.
Nor was Peter. But Peter did come around.
Do we know where Osteens house is located?
If their definition of a touchy feely gospel, means those who have assurance of salvation, then I believe in THAT touchy feely gospel. I don't believe in Osteen's touchy feely gospel. OSAS is a beautiful thing. I feel sorry for those who don't have that peace. 😇
“Nobody can force you to believe the truth.
I already know the truth. Wish you did. Pray that you will.
“At least others will have the opportunity to see and know which is why we present it here.”
I don’t think that is why you do what you do.
Nope. I’ll bet it is easy to find though.
“Judas wasn’t the Pope.”
And Pope Francis won’t be pope forever. And?
“Nor was Peter.”
Oh, yes, he was pope.
“But Peter did come around.”
Pope Francis might correct his poor decisions. He might not. He will die and be replaced in a short time. No pope lasts. The Church always does.
Re: “Actually, yes it is.”
You think it is our decision to tell another church how to run its own services?
Oh of course it will get much worse but the direction is certain.
Where did I say that? Please stop paying words on my keyboard.
So YOU have checked; eh?
Could you post the link for me?
Pfft!
You'd thinkm they had problems at an airport or something!
https://www.google.com/search?q=osteen+airport&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475&gws_rd=ssl
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