Posted on 06/27/2015 6:34:38 PM PDT by Morgana
Mary is the mother only of Jesus human body. She is not the mother of His divine side. There is a big difference.
Speak carefully.
No, I'd consider it refreshing except they twist the meanings out of context.
This occurs even though the Catholic explanation does not contain any vicious language or ad hominem attacks.
I'm glad they were able to restrain themselves.
Thanks to the Mary of the Catholic Church and her Promises in the rosary, I realized Christianity follows a Roman counterfeit Jesus.
He led me to jump way away from Christianity, including her harlot daughters that the mother birth.
HalleluYah!
Who is he? And what did he lead you towards?
He is the Way, Truth and Life.
His English name is Joshua. Yahshua in Hebrew..
He has zero to do with Rome..
He wasn’t born on Rome’s December 25- as scripture records (Revelation 12) He was born on a New Moon Day, an appointed time He taught Israel.
He laid His life down as the Lamb for my sins, on the 6th and final work day , Passover, the 14th day.
He was buried.
He rested on the weekly Sabbath of the 15th day, the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
And raised on the first day of the week, the 16th, Feast of First Fruits.
Every one of His major life events fell on appointed days that He taught Israel- literally the Word made flesh.
And that pattern is only counterfeited by Rome and hidden thanks to a Roman calendar named after a Pope. (That is why Passover isn’t always on the same day- sun worshippers in Rome have counterfeited the Creator’s calendar)
The first reformers had no problem calling the pope ‘antichrist’- they didnt know how prophetic that would be when 500 years later the world would run on antichrist’ calendar that would change times and laws..
And counterfeit the Way, Truth and Life..
See, anti just doesn’t mean opposed like we have been taught- it can also mean ‘instead of’/in place of’..
The Jesus of Rome is a fake. An instead of.. Not in Word or deed- counterfeit money won’t be misspelled and the best won’t look so different like monopoly money.
And amazingly that is how we all meet Him. He didn’t let me stay there .
But I am strange. Today is His 3rd day, the 11th day of His 4th month to me.
Not Holy at all unlike Rome and her daughters who says it is..
He led me out completely. And now I can tell the genuine from the phony - just like we would see a cashier hold a bill up to the light to see if it was counterfeit-
Somebody brave enough to hold Rome’s Jesus up to the light of scripture can see a fake.
“On numerous posts you have declared persons like myself a non-Catholic “Protestant” an apostate and going to hell...right along with the “heathens...and animists.””
That’s an outright falsehood. First generation Protestants can clearly be called apostates in a colloquial sense. But I have never, EVER, liked Protestants to “heathens...and animists”. Go ahead and search for any such reference. You’ll fail to find any.
“Well, which is it...?”
Which is what?
“Does Christ save me or the Catholic Church ?”
Christ is the Savior and that’s why He established the Catholic Church.
“You are naive, or willfully ignorant, if you don’t see through this.”
No, the exact opposite. Only someone who wishes to pretend or who is too dense to see that the two things are in fact different would come to believe that the existence of one true Church means other believers are not actual believers.
Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says about Protestants:
838 “The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter.”322 Those “who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.”323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound “that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord’s Eucharist.”324
Thus, I know Protestants are Christians and would never liken them to animists. You should apologize for your falsehood.
Jesus stated clearly that God has those Promised for Jesus in His Hand. And Jesus stated clearly that He has His in His hand. That makes two hands holding the Saved, the Delivered, the born from above into His family.
Jesus goes on to assert no man can take them or snatch them from those two hands. That 'no man' includes you, when you are born from above. Why? Because you did not birth yourself into His family, He did it. So the assurance of Salvation, the absolute guarantee of Delivered from the law of sin and death is made by God's Promise, and no man, not even you, would be able to take you out of His family grasp.
I know that's a hard saying for a catholic to comprehend, but it is the essence of how people are 'kept from the Truth' that this simple explanation is not sufficient for the 'salvation' offered by catholicism. And that is by design, the Nicolaitan design which empowers the institution at the expense of immortal souls.
A born from above Christian is obedient to family character traits, which of course are shown in the Ten Commandments revealing the Nature of God ... God is not a man that He could lie, or steal, or commit adultery or murder or ... well, you should get the gist.
The New Covenant Jesus delivered (Luke 22:15-20), sealed in Christ's Blood is this, that God has taken Christ's death upon the Cross as penalty paid for violating the laws of sin and death. That done, God raised Him from the dead and has Christ's blood covering the Mercy Seat above the law of sin and death, so that the newly Justified spirit of a believer, any believer, is free to approach God's throne as His adopted child approaching his father.
This adoption is accomplished by the most astonishing Truth too many catholics miss, that God puts His LIFE in the born form above, so that His LIFE can raise you up in the Way that you should go as a family member. So that we may cry out "Abba, Father".
If you want to ignore God, any excuse will do. But the process of being born from above requires no denomination or institution. It merely requires an honest assessment of your need for a righteousness ‘fix’ and the realization that Only Christ can provide the new life you need for the next phase in God’s ‘being created’ Universe. You can make the leap in the privacy of your own heart, anywhere, anytime that you sense the necessity for His Life. But I warn you, once you take that leap of faith, He, being the God Who created it all, will want to show you off as a newborn in His family, so you will be hungry for what He says and desirous of giving an open display of your sonship/daughthood by being baptized in the name of Jesus, The Christ.
When the institution you worship issued indulgences, were they valid? Did they cancel sins or shorten Purgatory times?
Oh, I know. I’ve read their tracts and booklets and talked to them here and there. They usually know a lot less than they think they do.
I don’t think it does much good at this point from either direction, but certain people here post multiple articles of this type against the Catholic Church on a daily basis. Presumably the OP is returning fire, so to speak.
“Excellent. Every time I read this sort of stuff and the arguments ensue, it reminds me why I’m not Christian.”
Not up to the tension, eh? I know that disgusted feeling yet after coming full circle would take the worst Christian over the best Pagan. ANY. DAY.
Tension is the issue. Unbelievers hate it because the broad road has lulled and dulled them. The Light, coming into that darkness, frightens them.
At the least, I’m confident that with your attitude should you come to Christ you won’t be any better at it than we are. But you’ll be saved and loved regardless!
“When the institution you worship issued indulgences, were they valid?”
I’ve never worshiped an institution. You should seriously think about why you falsely claim I do and meditate upon Proverbs 14:5 as you do so. I think you know better than to do what you did.
“Did they cancel sins or shorten Purgatory times?”
No indulgence ever issued by the Church “cancelled” any sin nor did any indulgence ever issued by the Church even claim to do so. Seriously, you’ve never even read a single book about indulgences have you? Have you ever read even one scholarly article about them? Probably not. Have you ever read anything about them that was even reputable? Probably not.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/myths-about-indulgences
“When the institution you worship IN issued indulgences, were they valid?” Now, how about answering the question. Were the Indulgences your religious institution issued valid?
““When the institution you worship IN issued indulgences, were they valid?” Now, how about answering the question. Were the Indulgences your religious institution issued valid?”
I don’t worship any institution. Thus, as it stands, the question is technically unanswerable. How about you take some adult responsibility and stop falsely claiming I worship an institution? Is it to much to ask that you not falsely claim I worship an institution?
Proverbs 14:5. Remember?
Missed the IN or just taking an excuse to avoid answering?
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