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Fox News Contributor Goes Off on Christians: So Bible verses are "vile" now?
PJ Media's PJ Lifestyle ^ | May 28, 2015 | Paula Bolyard

Posted on 05/28/2015 6:18:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg told Bill O’Reilly last week that Republicans live in fear of “the organized Christian right.”

Goldberg and O’Reilly were discussing presidential candidate Ted Cruz, who recently asked a local reporter in Texas if the left — including the media — is obsessed with sex, after reporters repeatedly badgered him with questions about gay marriage and homosexuality. Both said that Cruz handled the question well, even though Goldberg admitted, “I’m not a fan of Ted Cruz.” But Goldberg had more to say.

“Ted Cruz could have said, of course, I have no animosity against gay Americans. Next question,” Goldberg said. “But you know why he didn’t? Because every Republican lives in fear of the organized Christian right. There may not be a lot of people in the organized Christian right, but they have a very big megaphone, and [Republicans] live in daily and deathly fear of what they would do…if you even say, ‘Oh, I have no animosity against gays,’ that’s what they’re afraid of.”

He added, “There are more than a few conservative Christians — I’m not saying a majority or anything like that — more than a few who not only are against gay marriage, Bill, but detest gays, period.”

Goldberg offered the hate mail he receives as proof of the Scary Christian Right Wing Monster.

“I know this because when I come on this program and say I’m for gay marriage, I don’t only get e-mails from people who are against it — fair enough. Reasonable people can disagree on that,” he said. “I get e-mails from people who write the most vile things about gays, and they proclaim their Christianity. And I know for a fact that you get the same kind of e-mails.”

Goldberg didn’t say how many of these hateful emails he’s received — five…ten…fifty? But he paints an evocative tale of a breathtakingly powerful Christian group — one that threatens to bring down the entire GOP — fueled by shadowy figures who refuse to evolve on marriage. And they’re all sitting in their parents’ basements in their underpants sending Goldberg emails or something.

Bill O’Reilly, who has 3.3 million viewers on an average night, countered, “I have to say, I don’t get many of those. And the fringe is different. ”

“Wait, wait. Hold on. I’m not willing to accept that it’s a fringe — you don’t know what percent — percentage it is, and I don’t know what percentage it is. I know it’s too many,” and animated Goldberg shot back.

So according to Bernie, it’s not a fringe and it’s “more than a few conservative Christians,” but not “a majority or anything.” So, somewhere between a fringe and the majority, I guess.

Which means he’s willing to entertain the possibility that these “vile” emails are representative of Christianity in the main.

Goldberg didn’t say what criteria he uses to judge these “vile” emails. If a Christian emails him and says she believes the traditional Christian teaching that unrepentant homosexuals (and thieves and liars, et al) are in danger of eternal punishment, does that go onto the “vile” pile on Goldberg’s desk?


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; christians; evangelicals; gop; homosexualagenda; media; republicans; tedcruz; television
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

how many of those letters come from members of Westboro Baptist Church? Hardly a fair representation of Christians.


21 posted on 05/28/2015 6:41:55 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So “are liberals sexual obsessives?” What is the direct answer to the question?


22 posted on 05/28/2015 6:42:42 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460 (Ideas have consequences.)
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To: Hugin; 2ndDivisionVet
OTOH I'm sure he does get a lot of mail expressing vile hatred towards homosexuals. I see comments like that on FR all the time.

So Hugin, what constitutes hate in your world?

If I correctly describe homosexuals as deviants?

How about if I describe their lifestyles, their choices, and even them as evil?

How about if I quote Romans Chapter 1 that accurately describes the evil nature and acts of homosexuals as those who have made the choice to serve themselves over God?

Just what exactly are you defining as "Hate" here on FreeRepublic?
23 posted on 05/28/2015 6:43:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conservative Christian bashing is nothing new on FNC, Gutfeld was also bashing them yesterday.


24 posted on 05/28/2015 6:44:43 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: Snickering Hound

Bernie Goldberg is a blow bag has been and a never will be conservative who loves to hear the sound of his own voice . Useless is a great description .


25 posted on 05/28/2015 6:45:04 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: 0bamanomics is the equal distribution of adolescent propaganda & indoctrination :-)
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To: ConservativeTeen

Isn’t Gutfeld something of a libertarian or some such? I thought Bill Schultz, even though he was a bit liberal, was the funny one.


26 posted on 05/28/2015 6:47:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure there are people that call themselves Christians that “hate fags” and tell everybody that the “fags” are going to hell (Westboro Baptists come to mind). I’m pretty sure most real Christians are not writing Bernard Goldberg as they have better things to do with their time. I’m also pretty sure there’s a lot of hypocrisy to go around in all groups of people (especially those that work for any major media including Fox). It’s easy to paint with a broad brush those we disagree with. Christians should be held to a higher standard - but Christians, at least, have one. It’s easy to slide to the mushy middle where no one believes anything until the negatives of doing so impact their little world - then their all righteous and indignant. The self-life remains the most popular. It is not the way of the cross. The Bible states that all who practice iniquity and lawless will not see the Kingdom of God - that includes a lot more than those that practice homosexual behavior. But it does include them. Christians have a duty to warn the world of the coming judgement and the opportunity for repentance now. They are to do this in such a way that the only thing that’s offensive is the message they share and the remedy (the cross of Christ) that they offer. Bernard will have to answer for Bernard (just like everybody else).


27 posted on 05/28/2015 6:52:25 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am a Christian (follower of my Lord an Savior, Jesus Christ). I am also very conservative. I believe that God will judge the deviant dung punchers, just as he did with Sodom and Gomorrah. Do I judge or hate them? No need to...God does. In the work place I have defended such people when they were subjected to ‘discriminatory’ actions by others. I have recently known some, and consider them friends.

Goldberg is a leftist seeking an issue.


28 posted on 05/28/2015 7:03:54 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: kingu

That could work for me.


29 posted on 05/28/2015 7:09:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: txrefugee

>> He said that Jesus teaches that we should love everyone, but that does not mean we approve of everything that others do or believe if they are against Christian teaching.

Yep. Right answer. To paraphrase what JESUS said: “Then neither do I condemn you [to death by stoning... but] Go and SIN NO MORE.”

Ted Cruz has obviously read his Bible — and GOD’s word informs his ideology as well as his behavior.


30 posted on 05/28/2015 7:12:26 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A truly lost soul.


31 posted on 05/28/2015 7:17:51 PM PDT by bramps
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To: heye2monn
Secular Jews are generally not Christians, safe to say.

They're not even Jews.

32 posted on 05/28/2015 7:19:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure Bernie does get a lot of hate mail from all kinds of crazy people.


33 posted on 05/28/2015 7:25:04 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Romney had used Newt’s tactics, even a pale imitation, he’d have won. Look at the first debate.

True. And I think a few proto-candidates were watching in 2012, including Cruz. But I have yet to see the man who could take apart the left wing media and stomp on the pieces the way Newt did.

34 posted on 05/28/2015 7:32:34 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeaHawkFan

I havent heard a peep against Ted Cruz from anyone who wouldnt vote for hillary...

I smell a landslide in our future


35 posted on 05/28/2015 7:33:57 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: SoConPubbie; Hugin

There is hate here. Contempt and lack of humility, as if anyone can have anything to boast of before God.

On Romans 1, I read that more as peoples, who turn away from God to their selfish pursuits. Then a sign of that in their land is homosexual sin is tolerated and even celebrated.


36 posted on 05/28/2015 7:33:58 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: hinckley buzzard

I think Cruz is just getting warmed up. Anyone who has won that many debates and Supreme Court cases is not someone to take lightly. Hell, the freshman debate series at Princeton University is named after him. What, if anything, is named after Mr. Obama at Occidental, Columbia or Harvard?


37 posted on 05/28/2015 7:36:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Faith Presses On
Homosexuals had to "Earn their REPROBATE MIND" by refusing God ~ not once, ~ not twice, ~ but THREE times!

People who really want to know ... need to not only read, BUT STUDY this link
I especially agree with its last paragraph. There will be NO HOMOSEXUALS ( NOT ONE ) in the afterlife.
They WILL BE ASHES UNDER the soles of your feet ! ! !
38 posted on 05/28/2015 7:37:10 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So glad I stopped watching O’Blowhard’s program years ago.


39 posted on 05/28/2015 7:45:47 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernie is a leftie Jew. All Christians scare him.


40 posted on 05/28/2015 7:51:26 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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