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To: WVKayaker

“...all the error and falsity of the Roman Catholic cult!”

The snake handlers are out in force tonight, I see. But here’s a real question: If there is disagreement in Protestant teachings as to whether “once saved, always saved” is a valid doctrine (and believe me, I wish it were!) then where is the violent disagreement between Geneva and Rome?

As a Catholic I don’t know from one second to the next whether I will die in a state of grace and go to see the Lord. So I literally walk on eggshells.

How many times a day do I utter the words, “Forgive me, Lord?” I don’t know. How un-Christian is that?


58 posted on 05/12/2015 7:12:03 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("I went to Geneva and saw Ulrich Zwingli's smashed helmet.")
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To: elcid1970
The snake handlers are out in force tonight, I see.

As are the mariolators.

63 posted on 05/12/2015 7:23:34 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: elcid1970
As a Catholic I don’t know from one second to the next whether I will die in a state of grace and go to see the Lord. So I literally walk on eggshells.

I John 5:10-13 Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may *KNOW* (emphasis mine) that you have eternal life.

God wants us to KNOW that we HAVE eternal life.

Now.....

That's why He told us in Scripture, right in these very verses.

And here are more, spoken by Jesus Himself.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”

Jesus came to set us free. Free from sin. Free from death. Free from FEAR.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

How many times a day do I utter the words, “Forgive me, Lord?” I don’t know. How un-Christian is that?

It's not unChristian. However, it demonstrates a lack of trust in Jesus both in what He did and what He said/says.

68 posted on 05/12/2015 7:33:42 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: elcid1970
As a Catholic I don’t know from one second to the next whether I will die in a state of grace and go to see the Lord. So I literally walk on eggshells.

How many times a day do I utter the words, “Forgive me, Lord?” I don’t know. How un-Christian is that?

How sad to live your life like that...That is not what God intended...We are not under bondage...

We also utter 'God forgive me' all day long...But we don't walk on eggshells...We have no fear of being thrown out of the family of God...We have no fear that we are going to un-adopted children of God...

We utter 'God forgive me' because we are remorseful that we have sinned against God...He gives us the means to be good but we constantly fail him...Thank God he doesn't fail us...

94 posted on 05/12/2015 8:22:41 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: elcid1970
The snake handlers are out in force tonight, I see.

Darned ol' pesky SCRIPTURE that them Catholics assembled!!!!


Mark 16:9-20    Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

But he rising early the first day of the week, appeared first to Mary Magdalen, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

10 She went and told them that had been with him, who were mourning and weeping.

11 And they hearing that he was alive, and had been seen by her, did not believe.

12 And after that he appeared in another shape to two of them walking, as they were going into the country.

13 And they going told it to the rest: neither did they believe them.

14 At length he appeared to the eleven as they were at table: and he upbraided them with their incredulity and hardness of heart, because they did not believe them who had seen him after he was risen again.

15 And he said to them: Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils: they shall speak with new tongues.

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lay their hands upon the sick, and they shall recover.

19 And the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God.

20 But they going forth preached everywhere: the Lord working withal, and confirming the word with signs that followed.

179 posted on 05/13/2015 4:39:33 AM PDT by Elsie (I was here earlier!)
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To: elcid1970; WVKayaker
>>How many times a day do I utter the words, “Forgive me, Lord?”<<

The same here. But I do it out of sadness that I disappoint and do disservice to a God that has given me so much. It's my spirit side that has changed but the flesh side is still weak.

Matthew 26:41 "Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."

208 posted on 05/13/2015 6:16:47 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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