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“The Greatest of All Protestant Heresies”?
ligonier ministries ^ | May 12,2015 | Sinclair Ferguson

Posted on 05/12/2015 4:21:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: metmom
Ooohhh..... lookeee here....Someone is trying to manipulate women into silence by using Scripture to bludgeon them into submission with.

Sounds suspiciously like one of those troublemaker Catholics who doesn't respect his Mother enough :)

541 posted on 05/14/2015 7:52:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: HossB86
We’re not Catholicians, we’re Christians.

Keep striving, you'll eventually get there.

542 posted on 05/14/2015 7:53:31 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie; HossB86; MamaB; daniel1212
It’s unsettling that someone would take different passages of Scripture and paste them together to make it look like its saying something Scripture never really said.

I believe that is what cult members do as a matter of course. Look at cults like the JWs, Mormons, INCs and others. Those are classic examples of twisting sciptures. I can't even tell you why I did it when I was a catholic, but I think most do it. Praise Jesus for Luther. 😂😇 Actually, I do not know a whole lot about Luther. I just have to laugh, because it looks to me like Luther makes heads explode. Many might say they do not have a Luther fixation. Maybe some do and some don't, but whether you believe that or not, is your decision. 🙀🙊

BTW folks, I badmouth the RCC as much as anyone, but I just saw Sean Hannity talk about some chump, producer or director REALLY, REALLY bad mouth Catholics. It was amazing how quickly I was all over that dip stick. Those of us other religious people, can bad mouth the RCC, but that chump is not authorized to do so.

543 posted on 05/14/2015 7:55:39 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forever more endure.)
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To: Zuriel

If the eternal life giving eucharist doesn’t wear off, then why the repetition?


Because we enjoy each other’s company.


544 posted on 05/14/2015 7:55:57 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: Cronos; Religion Moderator; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; ...

You know, your mage-graphics are doing a great disservice to those who use iPhones, iPads, or who have dinosaur-like dial up connections.....

They don’t even fit on my regular computer screen and you know what, I’m not going to even bother to scroll side to side to try to read it.

It’s just plain out obnoxious.

If you want someone to read what you post, post it so it fits on the screen itself. Otherwise you’re just wasting bandwidth because I’m not even going to consider it and I’ll bet I’m not the only one.


545 posted on 05/14/2015 7:57:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: RnMomof7
too bad no one cared enough to get portraits of the wives of the popes.. we could start a gallery

Other than to use it to justify someones inane decision to leave the true church of Christ, what would you do with it??

546 posted on 05/14/2015 7:57:44 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: WVKayaker
I sleep well every night, resting in my faith in Jesus. He is the one in control, and all I can do is follow Him.

Moslems sleep real well at night too, they think that they are doing the right thing (and will cut your head off if you disagree) being in error does not discriminate much as to what the error is.

547 posted on 05/14/2015 8:04:15 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: terycarl

And yet you did not refute her statement.

The Catholic church DOES damn non-Catholics to hell.


548 posted on 05/14/2015 8:04:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: rwa265; Zuriel

Not a good answer to the question.

If the eucharist gives life, like y’all Catholics claim, then why the need to *recharge* every week, or go to hell?

Doesn’t it last?

Is our sin stronger than the forgiveness and grace and mercy of God?


549 posted on 05/14/2015 8:08:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

MEGA graphics.

***sigh***


550 posted on 05/14/2015 8:09:06 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mark17
I am an ex catholic

No such thing....like saying I am an ex male.

551 posted on 05/14/2015 8:11:11 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: metmom; Cronos
If you want someone to read what you post, post it so it fits on the screen itself. Otherwise you’re just wasting bandwidth because I’m not even going to consider it and I’ll bet I’m not the only one.

I'll second that motion. Sometimes I'm on my PC, but very often I'm on my droid. Unreadable posts don't get read much. But at least it's not cereal boxes. :)

552 posted on 05/14/2015 8:15:26 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: HossB86
Okay... how about a challenge for you: CCC 841 states that Roman Catholics worship the the same 'merciful God' as Muslims.

No challenge at all...that is in no way an infallible teaching of the Catholic church...it was a person who expressed that opinion...I don't agree and my opinion is every bit as important as his....not very.

553 posted on 05/14/2015 8:19:51 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: terycarl; HossB86
CCC 841 states that Roman Catholics worship the the same 'merciful God' as Muslims.

No challenge at all...that is in no way an infallible teaching of the Catholic church...it was a person who expressed that opinion...I don't agree and my opinion is every bit as important as his....not very.

Really, so Lumen Gentium 16 and the CCC were only written by a person, or it does not in fact say Roman Catholics worship the the same 'merciful God' as Muslims, and or only infallible teachings are what RCs are to obey?

554 posted on 05/14/2015 8:35:07 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: metmom
he Catholic church DOES damn non-Catholics to hell.

You need to get to church more...The Catholic church not only does not condemn non-Catholic Christians to hell, it allows that ANYONE can get to Heaven....Jesus' mission to redeem mankind would be an entire waste of His time if only Catholics would be saved. He did, however, establish a path to Heaven which He expects us to follow...that would be Catholicism......however, there are millions of buddhists, Hindus, who have never heard of Jesus...surely you don't think that Catholics condemn them to Hell

on the other hand, those who know of Jesus, and know of the Catholic church which He founded, will probably have some questions to answer as to why they thought that they could define Christianity better that He could.....

555 posted on 05/14/2015 8:40:19 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: terycarl
Why are you mentioning your cousins, the Muslims who worship the same god, when posting to me?

I am secure in my faith. My faith is in Jesus, not some manmade institution run by poseurs. I get my inspiration from God's Holy Spirit, whom Jesus promised would lead me into all truth. YMMV!

If there is something of substance to post about the theme of the thread, feel free.

If not, don't post to me. I see nothing in those posts except an attempt to coop the conversation... and divert from God's Truths found in Scripture.

Romans 8: 8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[his Spirit who lives in you.

556 posted on 05/14/2015 9:07:28 PM PDT by WVKayaker (On Scale of 1 to 5 Palins, How Likely Is Media Assault on Each GOP Candidate?)
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To: terycarl; metmom; HossB86; MHGinTN
I am an ex catholic

No such thing....like saying I am an ex male.

Ex male huh? Chelsea Manning and Mr, or is now Ms Jenner, might disagree with you. 😂 Let me say it again. I. Am. An. Ex. catholic. Was that clear enough for you? Get used to it. I am not involved in a cult anymore. You may think it is all nonsense. Think whatever you like. That's on you. I was thinking of putting in a good word for you with St Peter, at the pearly gates. Maybe I will, maybe I won't, but it is possible you might need it. Now, pardon me, while I go watch John Candy and Gene Levy.

557 posted on 05/14/2015 9:12:33 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forever more endure.)
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To: Elsie

Relativity is not the same as persistance. You still have Yazidis and Samaritans and Unitarians. However, the most powerful heresy was that of ARianism — continued in the Jehovah’s Witnesses


558 posted on 05/14/2015 9:18:09 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: HossB86

two places — one, what the JW rolls state and corroborated with what people say on census and Pew


559 posted on 05/14/2015 9:22:05 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Zuriel

Two reasons — 1 from the NT where Christ repeated the act and commanded us to do this in memory of Him. Secondly, this is linked as spiritual manna — to feed our spirit.


560 posted on 05/14/2015 9:24:11 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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