Posted on 05/12/2015 4:21:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
Let us begin with a church history exam question. Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (15421621) was a figure not to be taken lightly. He was Pope Clement VIIIs personal theologian and one of the most able figures in the Counter-Reformation movement within sixteenth-century Roman Catholicism. On one occasion, he wrote: The greatest of all Protestant heresies is _______ . Complete, explain, and discuss Bellarmines statement.
How would you answer? What is the greatest of all Protestant heresies? Perhaps justification by faith? Perhaps Scripture alone, or one of the other Reformation watchwords?
Those answers make logical sense. But none of them completes Bellarmines sentence. What he wrote was: The greatest of all Protestant heresies is assurance.
A moments reflection explains why. If justification is not by faith alone, in Christ alone, by grace alone if faith needs to be completed by works; if Christs work is somehow repeated; if grace is not free and sovereign, then something always needs to be done, to be added for final justification to be ours. That is exactly the problem. If final justification is dependent on something we have to complete it is not possible to enjoy assurance of salvation. For then, theologically, final justification is contingent and uncertain, and it is impossible for anyone (apart from special revelation, Rome conceded) to be sure of salvation. But if Christ has done everything, if justification is by grace, without contributory works; it is received by faiths empty hands then assurance, even full assurance is possible for every believer.
No wonder Bellarmine thought full, free, unfettered grace was dangerous! No wonder the Reformers loved the letter to the Hebrews!
This is why, as the author of Hebrews pauses for breath at the climax of his exposition of Christs work (Heb. 10:18), he continues his argument with a Paul-like therefore (Heb. 10:19). He then urges us to draw near in full assurance of faith (Heb. 10:22). We do not need to re-read the whole letter to see the logical power of his therefore. Christ is our High Priest; our hearts have been sprinkled clean from an evil conscience just as our bodies have been washed with pure water (v.22).
Christ has once-for-all become the sacrifice for our sins, and has been raised and vindicated in the power of an indestructible life as our representative priest. By faith in Him, we are as righteous before the throne of God as He is righteous. For we are justified in His righteousness, His justification alone is ours! And we can no more lose this justification than He can fall from heaven. Thus our justification does not need to be completed any more than does Christs!
With this in view, the author says, by one offering He has perfected for all time those who come to God by him (Heb. 10:14). The reason we can stand before God in full assurance is because we now experience our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and bodies washed with pure water (Heb. 10:22).
Ah, retorted Cardinal Bellarmines Rome, teach this and those who believe it will live in license and antinomianism. But listen instead to the logic of Hebrews. Enjoying this assurance leads to four things: First, an unwavering faithfulness to our confession of faith in Jesus Christ alone as our hope (v.23); second, a careful consideration of how we can encourage each other to love and good works (v.24); third, an ongoing communion with other Christians in worship and every aspect of our fellowship (v.25a); fourth, a life in which we exhort one another to keep looking to Christ and to be faithful to him, as the time of his return draws ever nearer (25b).
It is the good tree that produces good fruit, not the other way round. We are not saved by works; we are saved for works. In fact we are Gods workmanship at work (Eph. 2:910)! Thus, rather than lead to a life of moral and spiritual indifference, the once-for-all work of Jesus Christ and the full-assurance faith it produces, provides believers with the most powerful impetus to live for Gods glory and pleasure. Furthermore, this full assurance is rooted in the fact that God Himself has done all this for us. He has revealed His heart to us in Christ. The Father does not require the death of Christ to persuade Him to love us. Christ died because the Father loves us (John 3:16). He does not lurk behind His Son with sinister intent wishing He could do us ill were it not for the sacrifice his Son had made! No, a thousand times no! the Father Himself loves us in the love of the Son and the love of the Spirit.
Those who enjoy such assurance do not go to the saints or to Mary. Those who look only to Jesus need look nowhere else. In Him we enjoy full assurance of salvation. The greatest of all heresies? If heresy, let me enjoy this most blessed of heresies! For it is Gods own truth and grace!
it denies that the Son is of one essence, nature, or substance with God; He is not consubstantial (homoousios) with the Father, and therefore not like Him, or equal in dignity, or co-eternal, or within the real sphere of Deity. The Logos which St. John exalts is an attribute, Reason, belonging to the Divine nature, not a person distinct from another, and therefore is a Son merely in figure of speech. These consequences follow upon the principle which Arius maintains in his letter to Eusebius of Nicomedia, that the Son "is no part of the Ingenerate."
And you can see this same idea of Jesus as only a demiurge in the beliefs of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Greatest Heresy:
Roman Catholicism.
Hoss
Except that us former Catholics KNOW it's true.
A truism if there ever was one. When I went to confession, and told the priest my sins, he would give me 5 our fathers and 5 hail Mary's. I called it the 5 squared rule. Of course, I would usually not tell the priest about the more juicy and racy sins. I didn't want to embarrass him or me. I guess maybe I committed a mortal sin of sacrilege. Oh well, I just wasn't going to spill the beans. I would get my salvation back, then walk out the door and lose my salvation in less than 5 minutes. It seemed like I was on a treadmill, but now I don't do that type of confession thing anymore. It's against my religion. 😂😇
Hence the greatest heresy is Arianism
Arianism
Arianism threatened to crush out orthodoxy -- that is a powerful heresy
Proof texting demands one ignores context .. that is how much RC teachings are developed..
Thank you for admitting that protism is based on nothing.
Excellent questions Z
The repetition of your graphs on this one thread is not re-invorcing ANY point ANYONE is disputing.
Please cease and desist with this graph and map?
Those are different maps
You STILL have nothing - it appears your arguments are reduced to "neener-neener"isms.
I was hoping that you would at least try to refute what I said. But, when you can't, I suppose you can't.
Take care.
Hoss
Isn’t Mormonism worse? I guess it’s a matter of number of people deceived by how much. That’s a tricky equation.
Right up there also is Mohammedism.
Hoss
Not really, you had Marcionites who considered the OT god as a demiurge
Ditto for Gnosticism
And then Sabellianism
The Sabellianists taught that Jesus Christ and God the Father were not distinct persons, but two.aspects or offices of one person. According to them, the three persons of the Trinity exist only in Gods relation to man, not in objective reality.
You can see the linkage through Marcionism, Sabellianism, Arianism etc
Not really — my point is that Arianism was the most powerful heresy. Much more powerful than anything that Luther or Calvin taught
Why? Because it threatened to exterminate orthodoxy, which no other heresy threatened
...catching flasks.
Yes, I had been to a few of those Friday night parties, and was known to down a few, but I always went to confession on Saturday, to get my salvation back, even if it only lasted a few minutes. I always thought they should have drowned me in the baptistry. I would have been better off. 😂😆
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