Posted on 04/30/2015 8:47:37 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
"States could force Catholic priests to perform same-sex ‘marriages’ or lose legal status: Justice Scalia"
If the Supreme Court rules that same-sex “marriage” is a constitutional right, one justice has said that the government could force clergy of all denominations to perform gay “weddings” or lose the ability to officiate any state-sanctioned marriage.
On Tuesday, the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Obergefell v. Hodges, the case that will decide whether the Constitution forbids states from upholding marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Among the exchanges, Justice Antonin Scalia repeatedly noted that if the High Court finds same-sex "marriage" is a constitutional right, then priests, ministers, rabbis, and imams will be required to perform such ceremonies – regardless of their religious beliefs – or face state penalties.
Justice Scalia repeatedly suggested that once a constitutional right to marry by same-sex couples was enshrined by the court, a member of the clergy could not be given civil marriage powers by the state unless he agreed to perform any and all marriages that the nation legally recognizes.
"Every state allows ministers to marry people, and their marriages are effective under state law,” Scalia said. “That will not be the case if, indeed, we hold, as a constitutional matter, that the state must marry two men."
As it stands, most clergy serve a dual role, celebrating church nuptials but also signing legal documents allowing the state to legally recognize that marriage. But if they refuse to conduct same-sex rituals, government officials may strip clergy of their state legal standing, rendering their marriages legally invalid in the eyes of the state government.
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So everyone gets a civil marriage, and then a church marriage hours, or a day, later. That's how things are done in every Marxist, anti-Christian dictatorship.
Nothing.
Christians WILL BE persecuted in this once free Republic. One may argue that the persecution has already started.
Leftists promote sodomy, and abortion, and socialism ... they would dethrone King Jesus, and set up the State to be worshiped.
For some reason, they also desire to disarm the people.
Funny how it works that way.
Because the issue is never the issue.
The issue is always The Revolution.
It's not about sodomy ... or race ... or gender ... or the environment ... or the poor ...
It's about making you (yes, YOU personally) grovel in worship before the All Powerful State.
not ‘could’ but “WILL” force churches to marry gay people- anyone that thinks otherwise has their head In the sand
[[so what makes us special that we may not undergo such trials someday?]]
We HAD God’s blessings on this nation- way back when He was allowed in this country-
[[fund themselves and do what they want?]]
That won’t help- they will still be sued for ‘discrimination’ by the gaystapo
Once ( a big if ) the Supreme Court sanctions gay marriage it will therefore be state birthed, sponsored, state enforced, and state sanctioned state religion.
Gay marriage will therefore be a total violation of the 1st admendment.
It’s why we have a SCOTUS.
The bishops should probably have never let their clergy become agents of the state in the first place if the state’s version hasn’t been the correct one for centuries. I mean, as far as the Church is concerned the US civil authorities have never defined marriage correctly in the first place. Now many have been conditioned to believe the state defines marriage. Pope Leo XIII warned about this 130 years ago.
FReegards
An explosion is soon to happen and the death of the communists Democratic party will surely happen. King Obama’s empire will crash after 2016 and the entire party will begin it’s crumble.
That would imply this is simply some kind of legal issue, applied equally to all. We know that's not true. No mosque will ever be required to accept gay marriage.
Will they also force muslim imams to do the same?
It has never been the case that clergy are required to perform any and all marriages that the nation legally recognizes. For three examples, the nation legally recognizes interfaith and interracial marriages, as well as marriages between previously-married (and divorced) people. Yes, there are clergy who routinely refuse to perform such marriages.
That’s how it’s done in France.
“States could force Catholic priests to perform same-sex ‘marriages’ or lose legal status: Justice Scalia”
Could be the spark to cause a revolt.
Yeah I know. I was being facetious.
I see this as a solution, not a problem
Don’t they have a 2-track marriage requirement in France and other euro states?
You can get married in a church but also must have a civil ceremony to register the marriage.
Give mammon his “license fee” for a civil ceremony and voila, you are married. No need to harangue and sue ministers and priests ( and imams - since there is no-homo marriage in the koran))
I wonder if this will open up the possibility of people getting sacramentally married and not bothering to involve the state at all.
This isn't Congress-made law, this will be court-made law.
James Madison as a Congressman in 1789 drafted what became the Bill of Rights. Ironically it was a case he was party to, Marbury v.Madison, which was the vehicle for creating judicial review of laws...which has turned into the judges making the laws mean whatever they want them to mean.
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