Praying of the Rosary Is NOT Bible-Based Teaching

The Disciplers ^ | 2011 | Ptr. Vince

[RnMomof7]

Praying The Rosary Is Not Biblical, And Is A Form Of Idolatry

Just last Sunday, a local newspaper paper released an article teaching that the praying of the Holy Rosary is Bible-based. In the first two paragraphs, the writer admittedly says that there is no passage in the Bible teaching nor mentioned about the praying of Rosary.

However, in the following paragraphs, the writer justified the praying of the Rosary basing it on the repetition of historical events of some Bible characters (like Gideon as he mentioned) about Israel’s history.

I don’t know if the writer of this article did some research about the origin of rosary and how it was deeply encouraged for Roman Catholics.

Praying of Rosary was encouraged when Lucia Dos Santos and her cousins Francisco and Jacinta Marto claimed to have an apparation from an angel teaching them to pray in the spring of 1916. They were asked to pray repeatedly by the angel who appeared to them. This is why the Catholics were convinced that they have to pray repeatedly.

The flaw however in the story was that, the angel gave two sets of completely different prayers. The angel appeared to the three children three times.

Then after a year, 1917, it was said that Our Lady of Rosary had an apparitions for 7 times. In her second apparition the Our Lady said:

“I wish you to come here the 13th of next month; that you say the Rosary every day, and that you learn to read. In succeding months I will tell you what else I want.” “I would like to ask you to bring us to Heaven“, said Lucy. “Yes, Giacinta and Francis will be among the few, but you must stay here for a long time. Jesus wants to help Himself of you to make Me known and loved. God wishes you to remain in the world for some time because He wants to use you to establish in the world a devotion to my Immaculate Heart. I promise salvation to those who embrace it, and their souls will be loved by God as flowers placed by myself to adorn His throne.” Lucy asked: “Will I stay here alone”?, “Don’t be discouraged , I will not abandon you ever. My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and through it will conduct you to God.”

Now here are the flaws of this apparition. First, the Our Lady is telling the children to teach the people to make her known and be loved. Note that the apparition was initiated not by Jesus, nor an angel, but the very person who wants to be made known. It is like, someone came to you and asked you using the name of your friend to introduce her to other people that you know.

The second flaw, Our Lady promises salvation to those who embrace this command. A completely heretical claim, and totally in contrast to what the Bible is saying. The Bible is very clear in saying that “…whosoever believes in Him (Jesus) will not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16).” Only God can give salvation. This is the Biblical truth that cannot be altered, deducted nor added.

Third flaw, Our Lady claims that her immaculate heart will be our refuge and through it will conduct you to God. This is another contradiction to what the Bible is saying. “Come to me all you labor and are heavily burdened and I will give you rest (Matt.11:28)”, “I am the way the truth and the life, NO ONE comes to the Father except through me (John 14:6)”.

The truth is, there is only one mediator between God and man, it is only Jesus Christ (Hebrews chapters 6,7,8,9, and 10)

This is the statement coming from the third apparition:

“In october I will tell you who I am, that which I want, and I will do a miracle that all can see and believe. Sacrifice yourselves for sinners, and say often this prayer, especially during any sacrifice: “O my Jesus, I offer this for love of Thee, for the conversion of poor sinners, and in reparation for all the sins commited against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.“

The flaw of the third apparition is the claiming of honor which belongs to Jesus Christ, and the idea of co-equality with Jesus. Though she did not claim co-equality, but the fact of showing that people committed sins against her proposes the idea of deity that people needs to be so sorry for not recognizing her. The Bible tells us that there are three persona where we committed sins, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And now, here comes the Mary, an addition to the Holy Trinity.

“You have seen Hell, where the souls of poor sinners go. To save future souls God wishes to establish in the world the devotion to My Immaculate Heart. If people do what I tell you, many souls will be saved.” Then She said:” If my requests are granted, Russia will be converted and there will be peace. If not, she will scatter her errors throughout the world, provoking wars and persecution of the Church. The good will be martyed, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, and various nations will be destroyed…But in the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, Russia will be converted, and a certain period of peace will be granted to the world“. “Do you want to learn a prayer?” the vision asked, “Yes we do!” the children responded. “When you recite the Rosary, say at the end of each decade: Oh My Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Your Mercy.“

Now let’s look at this additional quotations from the third apparition. This is more like “Our Lady” centered command rather than “Jesus” centered command. Russia will be consecreted to Our Lady of Rosary than instead of Jesus. Notice the number of recitation of the Rosary. At the end of each decade (10), there is only one calling for Jesus help.

This is quoted from the last (6^th) apparition

“I am the Lady of the Rosary, I desire here a chapel in my honor to be built, that people continue to recite the Rosary every day. Will the war finish. The war is going to end, and the soldiers will soon return to their homes.” Then Lucy asked: “may I ask you for cures and conversions, will you grant them?”. “Some yes, others no. It is necessary that they ask pardon for their sins, that they don’t offend God our Lord, and that he is already too much offended.” “Do you Want anything else from me?” Lucy asked. “I do not want anything more.“

The flaw of the 6^th apparition is that the Lady of the Rosary is asking for a chapel in “HER” honor, and not Jesus’ nor the Father’s honor. We have to note that taking glory which supposed to be for God is a serious sin, this is idolatry.

The apparition is completely directing people in a wrong path. It is completely in contradiction with what the Bible is saying. The Bible warn us about these kinds of apparitions in Galatians 1:8 “But even though we (referring to Paul and his companions) or an angel from heaven, which should preach to you any gospel other than that which we preached to you, let him be cursed.” This is a strong warning that we should be careful in believing apparitions especially if it gives another teachings that what the Bible already have taught us.

Just some additional observations concerning the apparition of Our Lady of Rosary. Our Lady appeared “6” times. In Hebrew culture (the Israelite culture), 6 is the imperfect number. A number usually associated with evil things. Thus, the number of the Beast in the Book of Revelations tells us that it is 666.

Another observation is the dates of the apparition. The apparition dates are significantly on the 13^th of every month of that year. Even until, Roman Catholics believe that 13^th is always associated with evil things like Friday the 13^{t h} bad luck and not placing 13^th floor on buildings. Not to mention all the horror movies that happens on Friday the 13^th.

Now let me ask you, do you really believe that these apparitions comes from God? These apparition and commands are completely in contrast to what the Bible teaches us. They are “Our Lady of Rosary” centered rather than “God” centered. The apparitions promotes glory and honor for “Our Lady of Rosary” rather than the glory of God. And finally, even culture related things are in contradiction to the apparitions. Not to mention its lack of Apostolicity and Biblical support.

The praying of Rosary is another heretical belief of the Roman Catholic church to which Catholics are willing fight for.

[Elsie]

Let me inform you that your journey is not over.

[Colofornian]

This is perfectly inline with what the prophet Amos declared: Amos 3: 7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. This is how God does it when He wants to give us a volume of scripture. He instructs a prophet, the prophet completes the task and passes it along to us. Deciding on scripture without a prophet is unthinkable...

(Oh, you mean like Brigham Young saying that he had never preached a sermon [even given review/editing] that wasn't as "good as Scripture" ... and yet Mormons are frankly are downright embarrassed over MUCH of what Young & MANY other past "prophets" and "apostles" have preached and publicly disseminated?)

(You mean like Mormons who want to immediately honor the words of their "seers" as tantamount to direct revelation when they hear it at General Conferences...until...until...until... a group of their leaders get together...sometimes 40...62...74 years later...and declare as a man-made creed-like council that a certain statement was "scripture" after all...but 99.9% of what they said is somehow less than Scripture-level authoritative status?)

(Ya mean like Mormon "Apostle" but never Mormon "Apostle" Lyman Sherman? ... Early Mormon Sherman died without ever knowing he was called to be an apostle ... Apparently, Unknown to the Amos 3:7 'prophet' Joseph Smith," the Mormon god "calls" Sherman through Lds leaders, yet none of them had a "clue" that Sherman is dying? I thought the way the Mormons interpret Amos 3:7 would "kick in," that the Mormon god doesn't do anything without cluing in his "prophet"? Well, there goes that theory out the mormon window!)

(Ya mean like how Joseph Smith reports in the so-called Mormon D&C "scripture" that David W. Patten would go serve as a missionary. But then Patten dies in Missouri in Oct. 1838 without Patten ever having served such missionary status?)

I can see it now, SP.

Monson @ the next General Conference conveys to all that the Mormon god has called the "next" apostle. It's an "Amos 3:7 sure thing": But he dies, without EVER serving as an "apostle."

Oh well, concludes Monson. It's baseball season. Surely prophets get at least 2 strikes before striking out: So, he cites Amos 3:7, and says of all the missionaries being sent out, the one the Lord has assured him to be one is David W. Falsity of Falls City. Well, alas. David, dies, too.

But were this to happen, we at least know that this mishie's name would NEVER pop up in a future edition of the D&C. (That can't be said of the false prophesy linked forever to Patten's name!)

ALL: In understanding Mormonism, what's "interesting" is that Mormonism always touts having a "living prophet" (where they often cite Amos 3:7) so that they can present-tense revelational guidance given to their "seers." This is supposed to be one of the things they can look at with pride at what "sets them apart" from Christianity...(Of course, they fail to recognize that Jesus Christ HIMSELF...per Hebrews 1:1-2...remains our 'Living Prophet'...a title He no longer has to delegate to somebody else)

[Resettozero]

I know there is a creator. I know how he wants me to act. I follow his rules.

You follow some or all of his rules?

[Elsie]

It may be written in UNReformed Egyptian; still lying in the sand south of Aswan, on plates of, who knows; awaiting another Mormon Prophet to be led to the Dune Cumorah²...

[Elsie]

We should be working to embrace the 90% of what we agree on, not drive wedges in between the few things we disagree on.

I understand how you feel.

But one day last summer, after filling up my plate(s) with really good stuff from the buffet table, I got to the punch bowl.

And there, floating...

...After that; my appetite was just not the same.

[Vermont Lt]

Did I say some?

I follow his rules.

[HossB86]

No need to be snarky.

Just a little turn of phrase...

I know there is a creator. I know how he wants me to act. I follow his rules.

Good on points 1 and 2; if you're managing point 3, good on ya... I know I along with every other person ever born (save Christ) fails that test every single day. Thank God Almighty that he forgives sin when we repent.

But, I don’t tell my catholic relatives their prayers are wasted. (My term, not yours.)

No problem: I'll be happy to tell them -- but only if they're praying to someone other than God. :D

Hoss

[Vermont Lt]

I am late to this game: Mary did not bear Jesus?

[Elsie]

What about their beliefs about the nature of God?

What about them?

I don't recall that being on the test.

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But I'd imagine they'll have a mighty hard time believing in the CORRECT Jesus though, if they embrace them.

Jesus of Nazareth is the Savior.

Jesus of Lawns'R'Us is the gardener.

[Resettozero]

Did I say some? I follow his rules.

No, but you didn't specify which of his rules. I figured you followed his ten big rules just fine but wondered if you followed all the rest, as written in the Law given to Moses.

[Elsie]

But Jesus has both human and Divine natures.

Oh?

Human nature will get a person sinning.

GOD Himself doesn't HAVE a 'nature' HE IS!!

I am that I am

[Colofornian]

This is how God does it when He wants to give us a volume of scripture. He instructs a prophet, the prophet completes the task and passes it along to us. Deciding on scripture without a prophet is unthinkable...I mean, doing something like that and you could spend the next 2000 years trying to decide if you should baptize babies or not...oh wait...

Ohhh. You mean God wouldn't have us...
...deciding for generations...
...how many wives we might marry...
...that it would be "all clear" from the get-go...
...I see...
...Or that...
...God wouldn't have us...
...Refusing the priesthood to a certain skin color...
...For almost 150 years...
...but then doing an abupt u-turn...
...that color -- being such a surfacy, irrelevant (not to mention openly racist) basis -- would be "all clear" from the get-go...
...Or that...
...God wouldn't have his "prophets"
...preach from the pulpit for over 20 years...
...that Adam is God...
...that, instead...
...he'd make it quite clear all along Adam's mere mortal status...
...Or that if God was once a man...
...God would have openly stated so...
...At least, I guess, if not in Bible 1.0...
...then, if you believe in Bible 2.0...
...and Bible 3.0...
...and Bible 4.0...
...it would have somehow at least gotten...
...a clear depiction...
...versus trying to decide for the next umpteen years...
...If God the Father has a birth certificate lying around the universe somewhere...
...And leading to debate...
...What's happened to all those other gods...
...who came before him...

[Elsie]

(What? Did that hat he duck his head into become misplaced?)

It could have appeared in the JST; couldn't it??

[Resettozero]

I am late to this game: Mary did not bear Jesus?

I cannot get an RC to give me a clear-cut understandable answer to my question...

Why is the phrase "Mother of God" of such urgent importance to FRoman Catholics.

[DungeonMaster]

I don't recall that being on the test.

Some people probably thing the plan of salvation is the biggest doctrine, I think it's the nature of God. Mormons Flunk. Cathlics are a bit better believing in only 1.5 Gods.

[Elsie]

Why is the phrase "Mother of God" of such urgent importance to FRoman Catholics.

Say it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again; and it; too; will become pounded VERY deeply into YOUR mushy skull; too!

[Legatus]

Why is the phrase "Mother of God" of such urgent importance to FRoman Catholics.

Because of who HE is, not who SHE is.

[Elsie]

Some people probably thing the plan of salvation is the biggest doctrine, I think it's the nature of God.

Well; the BOOK indicates that THIS is what's going to happen:

Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.

 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

 

 

 

Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

 

 

 

Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 

 

 

Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

 

Revelation 21:27

Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

[Elsie]

Well; the BOOK indicates ...

So the question is:

HOW does your name get WRITTEN in that book to begin with?

And; similar to it; IS your name written there?

[Resettozero]

Because of who HE is, not who SHE is.

Interesting logic. To an RC, it no doubt explains why, as LC said, the title 'Mother of God' is repeated endlessly by RCs but is NOWHERE to be located in the Bible. Not even the 'concept' of it.