Posted on 03/01/2015 4:54:44 PM PST by NKP_Vet
Archbishop Fulton Sheen once wrote: There are not over a hundred people in the United State who hate the Roman Catholic Church; there are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church.
I was one of those who hated because of what I wrongly believed about the Catholic Church. The reason I had these beliefs was due to being told what to believe about the Catholic Church from those who were told what to believe about the Catholic Church. No one was willing to find out what the bottom line was concerning the Catholic Church. Everything said about the Church was taken as truth while it seemed no one was delving into what the truth really was.
What about these Catholics? They worshipped Mary. They had a religion but not a relationship with Jesus Christ. They said they believed in God but really their belief couldnt be the same, could it? The Bible says in James 2:19 KJV Thou believest that there is one God; Thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
So do Catholics have a belief such as the devils? When most Catholics are asked if they have been born again or have accepted Christ as their Savior, their main response is I believe in God or I am a good person, or Im Catholic. Also, they have all these rituals, Saints, Statues and what about the Pope is he really standing in for God? Another big item, are they cannibals when they eat the bread and drink the wine during communion? Why do they leave Jesus on the cross, dont they realize Jesus has risen from the dead?
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Then you must have a serious problem with the Catholic church. as they ordered Jews to be burned at the stake long before Luther was born. And I've already posted facts about this - get back to me when you can refute them.
Oh and, btw, you might want to check out Pope Pius XII's conduct during the Holocaust. If you think Luther helped the Nazi's, the Pope did NOTHING to stop them and, by that was complicit in their rise to power! Check this out: The Vatican & the Holocaust: Pope Pius XII & the Holocaust
LOL...yeah I knew you’d drag Pius into it eventually.....who did Hitler reference by name again?
Pius?....or Luther?
I agree. I will even extend that to those who think the "church" has seceded the nation of Israel.
Funny, you didn’t provide a link to prove your false accusation.
Retract it or prove it.
So that absolves the Pope of the part he played in the Holocaust? Hitler might not have referenced a lot of people directly by name but that doesn't excuse their despicable behavior.
LOL...is your google broken?
Google up the “Protestant Reich Church”....go look for yourself.
You would never believe me anyway.
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Did Cain recognize the authority of Yehova?
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You do know that accusing a poster of malice, libel or slander...actionable legal terms...can get you banned?You are accusing me of accusing someone, on this forum, of "malice, libel or slander."Funny...didn't stop you from just doing it.
I asked you for proof I did that. Provide a link to THAT or retract your statement.
Looks like you are playing the "Nazi" card instead.
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I did read back to where you asked the “question.”
RTZ claimed spiritual ancestry in the remnant, the few, not the many, as the catholic church, and all that have been spawned by its massive errors.
Corporations of men, such as the catholic church, and the various other similar but ‘protestant’ churches have no relationship to Yeshua’s remnant; they are of men, and worship men.
Who would want to be a part of them? They are all called out for destruction when Yeshua returns to Jerusalem. Only those that “come out of her” have any chance at salvation as he gathers his elect in the cloud.
Is this what you were talking about?
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In fact she opposed mostly Protestant law makers who enacted the Comstock Law:
In the 1910's and 1920's, the entire social orderreligion, law, politics, medicine, and the mediawas arrayed against the idea and practice of birth control. This opposition began in 1873 when an overwhelmingly Protestant Congress passed, and a Protestant president signed into law, a bill that became known as the Comstock Law, named after its main proponent, Anthony Comstock. The U.S. Congress classified obscene writing, along with drugs, and devices and articles that prevented conception or caused abortion, under the same net of criminality and forbade their importation or mailing.
Sanger set out to have such legislation abolished or amended. Her initial efforts were directed at the Congress with the opening of a Washington, D.C., office of her American Birth Control League in 1926. Sanger wanted to amend section 211 of the U.S. criminal code to allow the interstate shipment and mailing of contraceptives among physicians, druggists and drug manufacturers.
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html
Sanger had many 'issues' in her childhood. To pin her as a "Protestant" is absurd as she was clearly into the shadowy eugenics movement.
Are we really still beating that dead horse. Learn some real history. Go to the Encyclopedia Britannica, they are not exactly a fan of the Catholic Church.
Sorta what I was talking about, but not that much. I’m questioning the existence of what was claimed to exist.
To RTZ further back it was: “Not a categorical description you claim existed, but specifically by name and history: the non-denominational ekklesia that you have some evidence existed continuously since the time of Christ.”
And even further back to CB: “Who are these non-denominational Christians for two-thousand years? What is their history - your shared non-denominational history.”
It’s about a claim by CB of the existence of a “gathering of Christians was called the ekklesia... consistent since the time of Christ” and asking for specifics of their existence “since the time of Christ,” names, location, places... historical evidence of those non-denoms you would claim as ancestors in belief and theology and practice - orthodoxy and orthopraxis according to those who hold this view.
It only applies to you if this view includes you of course...
What are you talking about?
Sorry for that esoteric and ethnic and elderly comment.
(In a departed American era, in the South and in the country, there were door-to-door encyclopedia, Fuller brush, and cemetery-lot salesmen.)
Post 738 was intended for you.
\ Dead horse?
"As the security of the Jewish population became more precarious, Pius XII did intervene the month he was elected Pope, March 1939, and obtained 3,000 visas to enter Brazil for European Jews who had been baptized and converted to Catholicism. Two-thirds of these were later revoked, however, because of "improper conduct," probably meaning that the Jews started practicing Judaism once in Brazil. At that time, the Pope did nothing to save practicing Jews. [Gutman, Israel, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, p. 1136.]
"In the spring of 1940, the Chief Rabbi of Palestine, Isaac Herzog, asked the papal Secretary of State, Cardinal Luigi Maglione to intercede to keep Jews in Spain from being deported to Germany. He later made a similar request for Jews in Lithuania. The papacy did nothing. [Gutman, Israel, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, p. 1136.]
"In October 1941, the Assistant Chief of the U.S. delegation to the Vatican, Harold Tittman, asked the Pope to condemn the atrocities. The response came that the Holy See wanted to remain "neutral," and that condemning the atrocities would have a negative influence on Catholics in German-held lands." [Perl, William, The Holocaust Conspiracy, p. 206.}
"In late August 1942, after more than 200,000 Ukrainian Jews had been killed, Ukrainian Metropolitan Andrej Septyckyj wrote a long letter to the Pope, referring to the German government as a regime of terror and corruption, more diabolical than that of the Bolsheviks. The Pope replied by quoting verses from Psalms and advising Septyckyj to "bear adversity with serene patience." [Hilberg, Raul, Perpetrators Victims Bystanders, p. 267.]
"Wladislaw Raczkiewicz, president of the Polish government-in-exile, appealed to the Pope in January 1943 to publicly denounce Nazi violence. Bishop Preysing of Berlin did the same, at least twice. Pius XII refused." [Israel Pocket Library, Holocaust, p. 134.]
>>Learn some real history.<<
Would you like more real history? How many more accounts of real history would you like?
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