Posted on 03/01/2015 11:53:53 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
You are probably aware of the Four Blood Moons, but there is some related info that might be new to you. Between the 2nd and 3rd blood moons, there will be a significant total solar eclipse. Here are some of the strange facts for everyone to consider.
(By the way, I am not a Bible scholar, by any means. The facts might have prophetic meaning, or they might be just celestial poetry.)
I have never seen a suggestion, ever, until now, that there were three consecutive Sabbaths. I have a feeling that the rationalizations for a Wednesday crucifixion are getting progressively wackier, as all the more traditional ones fall to sounder exegesis and understanding.
In any case, your timeline falls apart:
Thursday was Passover starting at 6pm
So Jesus was buried on Wednesday evening because the next day was a Sabbath. However, you say the Passover didn't start until Thursday evening. So what Sabbath started on Wednesday night and continued through Thursday day?
It wasn't the Passover day itself, by your argument. It wasn't the first day of the feast of unleavened bread; that came after Passover, not before. And it wasn't the weekly Sabbath, for obvious reasons.
So what was it? Apart from the Feast of Shoehorning Extra Sabbaths, which commemorates the propping-up of implausible crucifixion theories?
And how do you get around the plain fact that all four gospels call the day of crucifixion Paraskeue, the day of preparation, which is the usual word for the sixth day of the week and is never used with respect to the day before any non-sixth-day Sabbath?
Yes. They had to take the body before sunset, and they couldn’t go and anoint his body until Sunday,
because of the Sabbath.
And the “last supper” was a passover meal.
Would appreciate quote and source....
It’s Rabbi Jonathan Cahn more than anyone else that’s writing and speaking about this.
Search: blood moon harbinger
Oh, the Harbinger clown. Well, forget that, then.
Thanks for the thoughtful refutation.
Why should I spend unnecessary thought taking him seriously?
It seems like an epic flashing neon arrow pointing at something. especially since it happens on the confluence of the equinox and Hebrew ecclesiastical new year.
Because Wednesday allows for people who see the sign of Jonah as three days and three nights ‘in the tomb’..
Problem with that is what happens when Passover falls on a ‘Monday’ like it did last year..
Kind of messes up three days and three nights or raised the third day.
There is a calendar in scripture. And a template is given to Ezekiel 46
The 14th day of every month is the sixth work day of the week. (Passover in the 1st month)
The 15th day of the months would be the weekly Sabbath (feast of unleavened bread - an annual but also a weekly sabbath, hence a ‘high’ Sabbath )
The 16th day of the months would be the 1st work day of the week after the Sabbath( feast of First Fruits)
Passover ‘floats’ in the world’s calendar because it isn’t dependent on the sun only.
The Messiah laid His life down on the 14thday. It wasn’t ‘evening’ but we know there was a supernatural darkness (or some sort of astronomical event) to make it meet the prophecy.
He laid in the tomb, resting even in death, on the High Sabbath (15th day)
He was raised on the 16th day, the first day of the week..
That pattern is not Friday, Saturday Sunday every year.
That pattern fits Torah and the prophet Ezekiel’s template He was given.. and the new testament doesn’t conflict with that..
It does help to ignore religion when they start ‘days’ in the evening or at midnight when Genesis says Day began with ‘Light’..
The 14th, 15th, and 16th template works on any day the 14th may start with.
Trying to tell the bible story with roman days is a recipe for confusion.
He may had been crucified on a ‘Wednesday’ but if we can trust the template in scripture, it would mean ‘Friday’ was resurrection day..
And it would have made ‘Thursday’ the sabbath.
That messes up Judaism and Christendom’s stories and worship practices.. and exposes Rome’s calendars of vessels for changing times(Daniel 7:25)
Yes Mr. B, it’s all there in Scripture as you correctly point out. Some here might have been a bit confused on the subject, which was also correctly pointed out as not central to our faith or salvation, but nevertheless worthwhile because it is so pregnant with prophetic fulfillment.
A few years ago, I also wasn’t quite clear on this and had to do some digging - it all came down to realizing the Jewish day begins at sunset. That throws us westerners. The “last supper” was actually eaten on our Thursday night which threw me until I realized that that night was the beginning of the passover day and the day of preparation, the day before the Sabbath which began the following night.
Jesus died at “the ninth hour” (our 3pm) but it appears they didn’t take him down from the cross right away because usually it takes longer for people to die from crucifixion and the Romans didn’t know he had died yet. So, as you also point out, it appears he wasn’t put in the tomb until near sunset so they couldn’t anoint his body because it was now the Sabbath. Interesting.
That whole “day beginning with sunset” is a problem for Westerners reading Genesis as well.
There was an evening, and a morning, the Xth day.
apparently, you arent reading this to understand it, but to defend a human doctrine
I am writing a Biblical one, one defended by Scripture
Yours is only defended by opinion
that is the room next door.
Well done then, and thanks again for your time in putting it together. If you ever lose your copy, I'll loan you mine!
;-)
You're getting hung up on this word being Friday when in fact it is referencing the Day of Preparation for the Passover. Two different things.
Seems a day of preperation would only be needed for a high Sabbath; such a day of preperation wouldn't be required for a regular Sabbath.
If Pilate granted the Jewish authorities the use of a guard until "the third day," then the guards should have packed up and left on Saturday night, yet apparently they were still there sometime before dawn.
You can't assume they would have left on Saturday night, more so since Romans kept the same day as we do today (i.e., from midnight to midnight).
The best you can get from a Wednesday crucifixion is a Saturday resurrection.
Agree, however, when the women arrived, he had already risen. We can not know exactly when he had arose. My theory is he rose at the end of the third day. Hollywood protraits the stone rolling away and him exiting - this is the picture in most minds, however, it certainly isn't/wasn't necessary for the stone to be rolled away, except when the women arrived for them to see it was empty.
Btw, it is said by many scholars that the stone was pinned with an iron rod, then molten lead poured around the rod sealing it in place. That certainly makes the telling of of a earthquake occuring in Matthew plausible - shearing the iron rod.
Matt 28 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.
5 The angel said to the women, Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him. Now I have told you.
Apparently, you have no response to my post, and are dismissing it out of hand.
On the contrary, the regular weekly Sabbath required a day of preparation because no work of any kind was permitted, including food preparation, so everything had to be done in advance.
On holy convocation days such as the ones bookending the feast of unleavened bread, servile work was forbidden (Lev. 23:7-8); however, food preparation was expressly permitted (Exod. 12:16).
So, in fact, there was less need of a preparation day in advance of a special Sabbath, than a seventh-day one.
And paraskeue is used exclusively in the Bible for the sixth day of the week, never for the day preceding a holy convocation. Except for the question of the crucifixion day, of course, and it would be arguing in circles to appeal to it to argue in favour of a Wednesday crucifixion.
you post didnt make sense
I posted the proper scripture
I dont know why you are ignoring it
15 Tishri 3757 - Sukkot / Birth of Yeshua
15 Nisan 3790 - (30 C.E.) Pesach / Crucifixion of Yeshua
fyi
You just blew my mind! I've been asking myself for over a year if, in all these blood moons, is there any particular moment they all point to, or is it just a general historical marker for things shifting around now? But I never knew that the exact middle solar eclipse had those properties until right now from your post!
LOL, yeah, "epic flashing neon arrow" is right!
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