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Why Jesus is not the Jewish messiah
Youtube ^ | Aug. 24, 2012 | Jews For Judaism

Posted on 02/28/2015 12:25:36 PM PST by umpqua

A brief talk on the reasons for Jewish non belief in Jesus.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Judaism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: evolution; judaism; messiah; pimpmyblog
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To: CynicalBear

No why would it?


121 posted on 03/01/2015 3:56:10 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

It messes up your “love everyone” meme.


122 posted on 03/01/2015 4:09:07 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: umpqua
Luke 13:34

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, just as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not have it!

123 posted on 03/01/2015 4:20:32 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Yet, my brother, who else begins to qualify after thousands of years?

And....the resurrection. The resurrection means the life of the Messiah continues.


124 posted on 03/01/2015 4:31:14 PM PST by xzins (I Donated to the Freep-a-Thon - You Should, Too! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: free_life
What is Judaism today? Split into different sects all rejecting Messiah.

What is Christianity today? Split into different sects all rejecting all of the other sects' particular ways of believing in and worshipping the Messiah, literally to the level of each openly proclaiming every other is damned to hell.

And you say there's no hatred against the Jews? Well I suppose, compared to how easily Christians throw each other into the burning pit of fire forever over doctrinal differences, it doesn't seem like hate. But then again, to me, it doesn't seem like what Christ taught either, so who cares if such people also damn the Jews.

125 posted on 03/01/2015 5:19:14 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Bellflower
...you disavow God's promises and workings in Sacred Writings.

Nonsense. I just point out that a lot of people have suffered just as much, if not more, in this world than the Jews. Singling them out as especially punished just doesn't hold up with the historical record. Read about the Armenian or Rwandan or Slavic or Polish or Irish or Chinese or Russian or native South or North American genocides and get back to me about how what the Jews faced was worse, or how they are special sinners.

Proselytizing generalities are cheap - I gave the example of the recently crucified Copt Christians and asked how they offended God, and got no reply. People spew doctrine in order to ignore other people nailed to crosses and dying in the burning sun and think this heartlessness will fool God. It must make God wretch.

The People of God are those human beings in the world who follow - by the way they live their lives - Jesus' greatest commandment, whether they call themselves Christians or not. All the rest is the worthless talk of people trying to lawyer their way into heaven.

It won't work. When you die, you stand in silence before God. You are not allowed to speak - your heart speaks for you. Your heart alone. I hope you are on the right side of it.

126 posted on 03/01/2015 5:36:46 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: free_life
The return of Israel (the Land) to Israel (the people) is prophetic. A blessing and or approval of God would be peace in that returned Land (state). There is none, no peace, no security till the Messiah returns.

let them lay hold of my protection,
let them make peace with me,
let them make peace with me. Isaiah 27:5

No peace with God whilst rejecting Him... His Messiah.

God will send the armies of the world against Israel and who will save Israel? Jesus, Israel’s Messiah

The prophetic "Israel" is not the country in the middle East - it's the whole world.

"Israel" means "God's Rule" and it stand for those who accept God's Rule and it applies to all of humanity - the entire planet. Pointing to a certain racial minority and a patch of ground is infantile.

127 posted on 03/01/2015 5:45:55 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Dan(9698)

Not trying to start an argument...but tons of guys have pronounced they are the SOG. Of course, Jesus had a great closing act.


128 posted on 03/01/2015 5:49:17 PM PST by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: xzins
There is a type of replacement theology that gets that crazy.

Not simply crazy, but also evil, as it leads to a hatred of the Jewish people and a twisted denial of the commandments of the LORD, which are to love God and to love the people of Israel, and by extension the Gentiles who are attached themselves to Him and them. Inclusion, not exclusion, is the righteous approach, as the parable of the Good Samaritan shows us.

129 posted on 03/01/2015 6:10:08 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Romans 9-11 also shows us that we are siblings in the same family of God. Paul clearly says, “..they are loved by God” and “...all Israel shall be saved.”


130 posted on 03/01/2015 6:16:10 PM PST by xzins (I Donated to the Freep-a-Thon - You Should, Too! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
Romans 9-11 also shows us that we are siblings in the same family of God. Paul clearly says, “..they are loved by God” and “...all Israel shall be saved.”

We are agreed, praise God.

131 posted on 03/01/2015 6:33:09 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Vermont Lt
The difference: I don't believe others.

I do believe him. He said “seek and ye shall find.”

You must study and pray to find him. It can be done.

132 posted on 03/01/2015 7:33:35 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: free_life

You a must be suffering from some kind of reading comprehension problem or you did not read my whole post. FR is not a missionary site. If you are saying Crhistianity tells you to be obnoxious to people of other faiths, that’s something I did not know about Christianity.


133 posted on 03/01/2015 8:19:22 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: Religion Moderator

I take it personally when someone suggests, no, dictates, that there is something deficient about my religion and that only THEIR religion is the proper one. Religion is a highly personal issue and good ol’ Free-style or whatever his name is, is using this forum as a proselytizing pulpit. He has publicly attacked Judaism as being an imperfect religion which needs JC to fix it. That is unacceptable. One might as well suggest that Jains, Shinto followers, Hindus, Confucians, etc. also have deficient religions which need JC in them. Of course, that concept is just as patently ridiculous. Let Free-style worship JC, and leave the rest of us in peace.


134 posted on 03/01/2015 8:55:46 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
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135 posted on 03/01/2015 9:08:42 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: EinNYC

Amen!


136 posted on 03/01/2015 9:17:06 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Made in September 1975. All Original Parts.)
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To: umpqua

The future does not belong to those that deny Yeshua as the Messiah!


137 posted on 03/01/2015 9:26:32 PM PST by Stymee (Father of 8)
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To: Religion Moderator

I do NOT want anything to do with the religious forum. That’s a place where all the “Only MY religion is good, yours is lousy” crowd hangs out. I have no desire to share time with such liberal-acting intolerant ethnocentric characters. Will “News/Activism” include all posts except religion forum ones? Then that would be fine with me.


138 posted on 03/01/2015 10:39:55 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Most of the posts about news will be seen if you click on News/Activism.

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When you log back in, be sure to click on News/Activism as “Everything” is the default.


139 posted on 03/01/2015 10:51:30 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: CynicalBear

No it doesn’t. It is about love. Guess you don’t understand.


140 posted on 03/02/2015 10:11:54 AM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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