Posted on 02/25/2015 11:50:17 AM PST by NYer
When each dies, he stands before God in particular judgement, that is, one on One between him and God. It is then that God decides whether or not one is worthy of Heaven, as with a martyr; goes to Purgatory, then to Heaven, or, sadly to hell. This is based on the Judgement and Mercy of God. For the part about the book, check out the rest of the post. At the end of the world will be the general judgement and the Resurrection of the Dead.
Welcome to Confession.
Welcome to Confession.
“1) This isn’t my thread.
2) If I have sinned against the Word of God... you have some mighty hubris.”
The thread post speaks for it’s ridiculous self. It’s your excuse making that is the trespass.
Did you not say: “This thread isn’t trashing anybody but exploring matters of faith.“
That statement is incredibly ironic, given the subject of the thread is how Protestants inherently contradict the Lords Prayer - claiming the act of being a Protestant is “trespass”.
Your own statement simply compounds the irony, and the claim that its “exploration” exposes the underlying argument that there is somehow an “exploration loophole” that allows for trespass in the context of the Lords Prayer - and further allows one to claim trespass themselves when their own error is pointed out through the act of being forgiven - as instructed in the Lords Prayer.
I forgive you, even though your statements appear to show that the irony is beyond your intellectual grasp.
It summarizes the article beautifully - Catholics don’t have to obey the Lords Prayer if you are committing trespass upon Protestants. I don’t see that as a legitimate interpretation of the Lords Prayer, if one simply goes by the Word of God.
I disagree sir. God has already decided that there isn't one single solitary person that has ever lived, except Jesus Christ who is worthy of Heaven. I surely do not want to try and bluff my way past Him, by telling Him I am worthy of Heaven. That ain't going to cut the mustard for me. I don't want to stress and strain at life and then end up in Hell anyway. I want a little more assurance than that. Otherwise, it is eat drink and be merry. By the way, when I was a catholic, the priests told is that there was a place called Limbo. I have not heard anyone say anything about the place.
Anyway, agree, or disagree, but when Gabriel blows his horn, we REALLY will know for sure, won't we?
When John was "in the Spirit" he saw Jesus in all of His glory and yet this closest of apostles wrote..."when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead".
Which is probably a fair indication of how any of us might fair in the same situation!
Nothing 'not made perfect' is going to be in His presence very long.Any who imagine they will have some sort of 'worthiness' of their own to bring to that table might as well stand on the sun and expect to cast a shadow.
If I imagined I'd be sitting down for a one on one with the "All consuming fire" for a decision on wether I'm worthy enough I'd question my own view of just how awesome God really is.
Teach us HOW to pray;
not...
Teach us WHAT to pray.
LOL, Mitch. I love it. I will use that again, but go even further. One is infinitely more likely to stand on the sun and cast a shadow, than to be considered worthy by God. Ain't going to happen. Those are not the kind of odds I care to deal with. We will have to do it some other way. Got any ideas? 😄😃😃😀
I surely do not want to try and bluff my way past Him, by telling Him I am worthy of Heaven.
When the Son of Man comes in His glory and sits on His glorious throne (Matthew 25:31-46), we will not be telling Him anything, let alone bluffing our way past Him.
When He separates the sheep from the goats, we will at that moment each be either a sheep or a goat. To be a sheep, we need to have faith in God and follow His commandments. (Matthew 19:16-17; Mark 10:17-18)
What are His commandments?
The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-17)
The Great Commandment (Matthew 22:36-40; Mark 28-34; Luke 25-28)
The New Commandment (John 13:34-35; John 15:12-17)
We shouldn’t have to stress and strain to follow these commandments if we have surrendered ourselves to His will. All we need to is to love God with all our heart, soul, and mind, and love each other as Jesus loves us, and the rest will follow.
Regarding your mention of the term Limbo. It was a speculative idea that has fallen out of use. It has never been official doctrine.
How is the regenerating work of the HS reversed?
How does Paul talking about his suffering didn’t even compare to that of Christ have anything to do with it?
It was a joke?? Now you tell me it was a joke? I ain't never.
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No they don't. Christ said His words were spirit. He said "the flesh propheteth nothing". The Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write the qualifications for leadership in the ekklesia. The Catholic Church didn't take that "directly at His Word". God said "don't eat the blood". Christ said there would be no "who is greatest among you". The list is long as far as the Catholic Church not taking "Christ directly at His Word".
We never seem to get any documented evidence of that yet they repeatedly claim it. Curious that.
That makes no sense. The focus of the conversation was the "eating of the flesh" and the angst it caused the listeners. There is no change in direction of the conversation.
So when God said He would forgive our sins and never bring them to mind again He was just kidding or what.
My parents sure believed in Limbo, and they said they both hoped to go there. They felt they were not good enough to go to Heaven, but hoped they were good enough to go to Limbo. Not one person ever keeps the commandments. Not one, so I am still left wondering how I am going to bluff my way past God, into Heaven. I think I will have to make it some other way.
I thought Catholics were required to believe that the magisterium is always right.
It was a joke?? Now you tell me it was a joke? I ain't never.
snicker
You ain't never what? Made a mistake, or never knew it was a joke? I know God is the only one who is perfect, but CB, even you make a mistake now and then, so don't try to bluff your way past God into Heaven by telling Him you think you are worthy of Heaven. 😄😃😀😊
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