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Is the Mass the Real Sacrifice of Christ?
In Plain Site ^ | Febuary 7 ,2015 | James G. McCarthy

Posted on 02/08/2015 12:34:39 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Cap'n Crunch

Why would Catholics insist that Jesus sinned against the law by eating blood?


81 posted on 02/08/2015 3:05:44 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

When losing the argument take the low road.


82 posted on 02/08/2015 3:08:23 PM PST by verga (I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Now that he is risen, in heaven, Christ “enters” CONSTANTLY and presents himself and his death to the Father.>

scripture please

83 posted on 02/08/2015 3:09:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: CynicalBear
Why would Catholics insist that Jesus sinned against the law by eating blood?

Why do prots insist on calling Him a liar?

84 posted on 02/08/2015 3:09:43 PM PST by verga (I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Salvation
“Do this in memory of me.” Jesus’ words.

Not re sacrifice me a few times daily

85 posted on 02/08/2015 3:11:16 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: stonehouse01; RnMomof7
>>The Mass is a time machine - it returns us in time to the ONE sacrifice on calvary.<<

No it isn't and no it doesn’t. The mass is a paganistic ritual and Catholics assign the sin of eating blood to Jesus and the apostles.

86 posted on 02/08/2015 3:11:31 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga; metmom; Cap'n Crunch; RnMomof7
>> it becomes the body, blood, soul and divinity or our Lord Jesus Christ.<<

Do do that voodoo that you do so well.

87 posted on 02/08/2015 3:13:32 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

KJV says “do this in memory of me”.

Which translation says “remember this”?


88 posted on 02/08/2015 3:15:30 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RnMomof7

The Last Supper was a sacrifice ... “take this and eat it, for this is My Body”.


89 posted on 02/08/2015 3:16:57 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Do you understand there was no priesthood in the early church because they saw Jesus as the final sacrifice? There was no longer a need for the priest

Greg Dues has written Catholic Customs & Traditions, a popular guide (New London: Twenty Third Publications, 2007). On page 166 he states, "Priesthood as we know it in the Catholic church was unheard of during the first generation of Christianity, because at that time priesthood was still associated with animal sacrifices in both the Jewish and pagan religions."

"A clearly defined local leadership in the form of elders, or presbyteroi, became still more important when the original apostles and disciples of Jesus died. The chief elder in each community was often called the episkopos (Greek, 'overseer'). In English this came to be translated as 'bishop' (Latin, episcopus). Ordinarily he presided over the community's Eucharistic assembly."

"When the Eucharist came to be regarded as a sacrifice, the role of the bishop took on a priestly dimension. By the third century bishops were considered priests. Presbyters or elders sometimes substituted for the bishop at the Eucharist. By the end of the third century people all over were using the title 'priest' (hierus in Greek and sacerdos in Latin) for whoever presided at the Eucharist."

90 posted on 02/08/2015 3:17:28 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

>The reason is that most Catholics are not aware that the Church teaches that the Mass is an actual sacrifice.<

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That’s a pretty bold statement to make.

How many Catholics were included in your survey?


91 posted on 02/08/2015 3:25:08 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: RnMomof7
Few Catholics think about this question.

Once they DO start thinking; things tend to happen!

92 posted on 02/08/2015 3:26:57 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear
Voodoo?

Have you read what St. Paul said about the Body and Blood of Christ in the Lord's Supper?

So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep [i.e., died].
You might want to turn a cynical eye toward Luther and his tradition of sola scriptura, which isn't biblical, rather than the words of St. Paul.
93 posted on 02/08/2015 3:27:03 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: verga

Does it taste like bread and wine to you or flesh and blood? This was the “issue” Martin Luther had.


94 posted on 02/08/2015 3:41:23 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.

And, that remains a teaching of the Catholic Church to this very day.

95 posted on 02/08/2015 3:41:26 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: verga; RnMomof7
"The Jewish people celebrate Passover as a commemoration of their liberation over 3,300 years ago" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover]

I asked and got an answer and once again you are misunderstanding what they do. They are participating in a Seder meal. They are commemorating, as in remembering the freedom given them. Even if subsequently conquered and oppressed and hunted, the Jew never ceases to see himself inherently as a free man thus they participate in the freedom they believe they have. It is NOT as if they are participating in the original exodus. They only relive the implanted awareness of freedom. They said "As the Baal Shem Tov brilliantly put it – you are where your will is, this means you are essentially free. If you crave freedom, you are indeed free."

So once again the Catholics twist the words to mean something different.

96 posted on 02/08/2015 3:44:47 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7

Seems to me the RCC enjoys crucifying Christ over and over and over again (daily).

There’s an empty cross for a reason past his Passover sacrifice for us.


97 posted on 02/08/2015 3:45:45 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: verga

Just telling it like it is.


98 posted on 02/08/2015 3:46:25 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7

We don’t call Him a liar. We understand that He was speaking spiritually just as He said He was.


99 posted on 02/08/2015 3:47:29 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: DuncanWaring
>>Which translation says “remember this”?<<

Here are the words directly from and in the order they are in the Greek.

"this do in the of me remembrance".

Like I said, twist those to your hearts desire.

100 posted on 02/08/2015 3:54:54 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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