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What Do the Scriptures Mean which speak of “the flesh?”
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-08-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/09/2015 7:27:11 AM PST by Salvation

What Do the Scriptures Mean which speak of “the flesh?”

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

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There is a common misunderstanding of the meaning of the Biblical phrase “the flesh.”  There are many references to “the flesh” in New Testament Scripture, especially in the letters of St. Paul. The phrase confuses some, who think it synonymous with the physical body or merely with sexual sin.

It is true that there are many times when Scripture uses the word “flesh” to refer to the physical body. However, when the definite article “the” is placed before the word “flesh” we are most often dealing with something else. Only very rarely does the Biblical phrase “the flesh” (ἡ σὰρξ (he sarx), in Greek) refer only to the physical body (e.g., John 6:53; Phil 3:2; 1 John 4:2); rather, it almost always the phrase refers to something quite distinct from merely the physical body.

fWhat then is meant by the term “the flesh” (ἡ σὰρξ)? Perhaps most plainly it refers to the part of us that is alienated from God. It is the rebellious, unruly, obstinate part of our inner self that is operative all the time. It is the part of us that doesn’t want to be told what to do. It is stubborn, refuses correction, and doesn’t want to have a thing to do with God. It bristles at limits and rules. It recoils at anything that might cause me to be diminished or to be something less than the center of the universe. The flesh hates to be under authority or to have to yield to anything other than its own wishes and desires. The flesh often desires something simply because it is forbidden.

The recent Protestant translations of the Bible such as the NIV often call the flesh our “sin nature,” which is all right unless the term “nature” is understood in the stricter philosophical sense. (For sin is not something that we should posit as coming from our nature, but rather as emerging more from our fallen condition, from the fact that our nature has been wounded.) In Catholic tradition, “the flesh” is where concupiscence sets up shop. Concupiscence refers to the strong inclination to sin that is in us as a result of the wound of Original Sin. If you do not think that your flesh is strong, just try to pray for five minutes and watch how quickly your mind wants to think of anything but God. Just try to fast or to be less selfish; then watch how quickly your flesh goes to war.

The flesh is in direct conflict with the spirit. “The spirit” here refers not to the Holy Spirit, but to the human spirit. The (human) spirit is the part of us that is open to God, that desires and is drawn to Him. It is the part of us that is attracted by goodness, beauty, and truth, the part that yearns for completion in God, the part that longs to see His face. Without the spirit, we would be totally turned in on ourselves and consumed by the flesh. Thankfully, our spirit, assisted by the Holy Spirit, draws us to desire what is best, upright, good, and helpful.

Perhaps it is good that we look at just a few texts which reference “the flesh” and thus learn more of the flesh and its ways. This will help us to be on our guard and to rebuke it (by God’s grace) and learn not to feed it. I make some comments in red following each quote.

1. The Flesh does not grasp spiritual teachings - [Jesus said] The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life (John 6:63).

Having heard Jesus’ teaching on the Eucharist, most of his listeners ridicule it and will no longer take Jesus seriously. So Jesus indicates that their hostility to the teaching on the Eucharist is of the flesh. The flesh demands that everything be obvious to it on its own terms. The flesh demands to see physical proof for everything; it demands that it be able to “see” using its own unregenerate power. And if it cannot see based on its own limited view, it simply rejects spiritual truth out of hand. In effect, the flesh refuses to believe at all since what it really demands is something that will “force” it to accept something. Absolute proof takes things out of the realm of faith and trust. Faith is no longer necessary when something is absolutely proven and plainly visible to the eyes of flesh. The flesh simply refuses to believe and demands proof.

2. The flesh is not willing to depend on anyone or anything outside its own power or control – For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— though I myself have reasons for such confidence. If anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless….I [now] consider this rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ (Phil 3:3-9 selected)

The flesh wants to be in control rather than to have to trust in God. Hence it sets up its own observance, under its own control. And when it has met its own demands it declares itself to be righteous. Since the flesh hates being told what to do it takes God’s law and makes it “manageable” based on the flesh’s own terms. So, for example, if I am supposed to love, let me limit it to my family and countrymen but I am “allowed” to hate my enemy. But Jesus says, no, love your enemy. The flesh recoils at this for unless the law is manageable and within the power of the flesh to accomplish it, the Law cannot be controlled. The flesh trusts only in its own power. The Pharisees were “self-righteous” That is to say, they believed in a righteousness that they themselves brought about through their flesh power. But the Law and flesh cannot save. Only Jesus Christ can save. The flesh refuses this and wants to control the outcome based on its own power and terms.

3. The Flesh hates to be told what to do – For when we were controlled by the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. (Rom 7:5)

The disobedience and rebelliousness of the flesh roots us in sinful behavior and prideful attitudes. The prideful attitude of the flesh is even more dangerous than the sins that flow from the flesh since pride precludes instruction in holiness and possible repentance that lead to life. But the flesh does not like to be told what to do. Hence it rejects the testimony of the the Church, the scriptures and the conscience. Notice, according to the text, the very existence of God’s Law arouses the passions of the flesh. The fact that something is forbidden makes the flesh want it all the more! This strong inclination to sin is in the flesh and comes from pride and indignation at “being told what to do.” The flesh is refuses God’s Law and sets up its own rules. The flesh will not be told what to do.

4. Flesh is as flesh does - Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the spirit have their minds set on what the spirit desires. The concern of the flesh is death, but the concern of the spirit is life and peace (Rom 8:5-6)

The flesh is intent on things of this world, upon gratifying its own passions and desires. On account of the flesh we are concerned primarily with ourselves and seek to be at the center. The flesh is turned primarily inward. St Augustine describes the human person in the flesh as “curvatus in se” (turned in upon himself). But the spirit is that part of us that looks outward toward God and opens us the truth and holiness that God offers. Ultimately the flesh is focused on death for it is concerned with what is passing away: the body and the world. The human spirit is focused on life for it focuses on God who is life and light.

5. The Flesh is intrinsically hostile to God – The mind of the flesh is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. (Rom 8:7-8)

The flesh is hostile to God because it is pridefully hostile to any one more important than itself. Further the flesh does not like being told what to do. Hence it despises authority or anyone who tries to tell it what to do. It cannot please God because it does not want to.

6. The Flesh abuses freedom - You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another in love. (Gal 5:13)

The flesh turns God given freedom into licentiousness. Licentiousness is to demand freedom without limit. Since the flesh does not want to be told what to do it demands to be able to do what ever it wants. In effect the flesh says, “I will do what I want to do and I will decide if it is right or wrong.” This is licentiousness and it is an abuse of freedom. It results in indulgence and paradoxically leads to a slavery to the senses and the passions.

7. The Flesh Demands to be fed - So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. (Gal 5:16-17)

Within the human person is this deep conflict between the flesh and spirit. We must not be mistaken, the flesh is in us and it is strong. It has declared war on our spirit and on the Holy Spirit of God. When the spirit tries to obey the flesh resists and tries to sabotage the best aspirations of the spirit. We must be sober about this conflict and understand that this is why we do not do what we most know is right. The flesh has to die and the spirit come more alive. What you feed grows. If we feed the flesh it will grow. If we feed the spirit it will grow. What are you feeding? Are you sober about the power of the flesh and do you and I therefore feed our spirit well through God’s word and holy communion, through prayer and the healing power of confession. What are you feeding?

8. The Flesh fuels sin – The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God (Gal 5:19-210)

This catalogue of sins that flow from the flesh is not exhaustive but is representative of the offensive and obnoxious behavior that flows from the flesh. Be sober about the flesh, it produces ugly children.

9. The Flesh hates authority -  This [condemnation by God] is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. (2 Peter 2:10)

Clear enough, the flesh hates authority and, did I mention (?) The flesh does not want to be told what to do.

So here is a portrait of “the flesh.” It is ugly. You may say I have exaggerated, that the flesh is not really this bad. Well I am not, just buy a newspaper and see what the flesh is up to. You may, by God’s grace, have seen a diminishment in the power of the flesh in your life. That is ultimately what God can and will do for us. He will put the flesh to death in us and bring alive our spirit by the power of his Holy Spirit. But step one is to appreciate what the flesh is and understand its moves. Step two is to bring this understanding to God through repentance. Step three is, by God’s grace, to stop feeding the flesh and start feeding the spirit on prayer, scripture, Church teaching and Holy Communion. Step four is to repeat steps 1-3 for the rest of our lives. God by his grace will cause the flesh to die and the spirit to live by his grace at work in us through Jesus Christ.



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To: verga

“Or woefully uninformed.”

How so? I just read the article. What is it you don’t
understand? Maybe I can help you out.


21 posted on 01/09/2015 8:32:20 AM PST by Slambat
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To: All
That is ultimately what God can and will do for us. He will put the flesh to death in us and bring alive our spirit by the power of his Holy Spirit.
But step one is to appreciate what the flesh is and understand its moves.
Step two is to bring this understanding to God through repentance.
Step three is, by God’s grace, to stop feeding the flesh and start feeding the spirit on prayer, scripture, Church teaching and Holy Communion.
Step four is to repeat steps 1-3 for the rest of our lives. God by his grace will cause the flesh to die and the spirit to live by his grace at work in us through Jesus Christ.
22 posted on 01/09/2015 8:32:27 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Good summation!


23 posted on 01/09/2015 8:36:10 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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Though I am a non-Roman Catholic Christian, I always appreciate Msgr. Pope’s dissection of Scripture and how it applies to our lives as followers of Jesus. Good stuff, sir!


24 posted on 01/09/2015 8:39:32 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: defconw
Or that. I wonder if this is why Jesus wants us to consume His flesh and blood? His after all has the power to transform our flesh? I guess I never really though that much about flesh oddly enough.

I can't take credit for putting those together. I was doing my daily Bible study reading Galatians and one of the prots here posted the comment about John 6.

Nest thing you know I put 2 and 2 together and......

There are no coincidences, only Godincidences.

25 posted on 01/09/2015 8:43:21 AM PST by verga (.)
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To: defconw

“If as you now state this was as a child, then of course I get it.”

Hay guess what? I’m still having fun with it. Just like
Mark 2:27, when confronted by the righteous for working
on Sunday. I know my God and my God has a sense of humor.


26 posted on 01/09/2015 8:45:02 AM PST by Slambat
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To: chajin
Protestants, particularly among the laity, see themselves as a Manichean duality, flesh vs. spirit, not realizing that Christianity asserts three natures within humans, the soma (flesh), the psyche (soul/mind), and the pneuma (spirit), and the distinction between the flesh and the soul, and between the soul and the spirit, is just as necessary to understanding human nature as the distinction between the flesh and the spirit.

But the difficulty arises over the matter (No pun intended) that all three are linked in one person (The self) with one nature (human).

We are (Or should be) trying to acquire a Godly nature and conform ourselves to His will.

27 posted on 01/09/2015 8:49:32 AM PST by verga (.)
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To: Salvation
You may say I have exaggerated, that the flesh is not really this bad. Well I am not, just buy a newspaper and see what the flesh is up to.

No kidding.

28 posted on 01/09/2015 8:50:27 AM PST by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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To: Salvation; metmom; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; ...
Reading scripture , like all reading you must take context into the meaning ...Knowing that it was a sin to the jews to eat blood... onw has to consider just what He meant . Jesus would never tell men to sin .

Lexicon :: Strong's G4561 - sarx

σάρξ

Transliteration
sarx
Pronunciation
sä'rks (Key)
Part of Speech
feminine noun
Root Word (Etymology)
Probably from the base of σαρόω (G4563)
Dictionary Aids

Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry

TDNT Reference: 7:98,1000

Outline of Biblical Usage
  1. flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts

  2. the body

    1. the body of a man

    2. used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship

      1. born of natural generation

    3. the sensuous nature of man, "the animal nature"

      1. without any suggestion of depravity

      2. the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin

      3. the physical nature of man as subject to suffering

  3. a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast

  4. the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God

KJV Translation Count — Total: 151x
The KJV translates Strongs G4561 in the following manner: flesh (147x), carnal (2x), carnally minded (with G5427) (1x), fleshly (1x).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon Help

G4561

Unlike man Christ had a Divine nature, that man needs if he is ever to see the Father ... That is found only in Christ.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal G4561 mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Tools specific to Rom 8:8 Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


29 posted on 01/09/2015 8:54:27 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Slambat

If God didn’t have a sense of humor he wouldn’t have made people.


30 posted on 01/09/2015 9:01:24 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Slambat
let me help you out.

There are a group of people here that like to refer to themselves as "Bible Christians" that neither follow the Bible or are even "christians" (intentional lower case "c")

They love to come on threads and tell Catholics that we are pagans. They mock Catholic beliefs and practices and just generally demonstrate extreme hatred of the Catholic Church and all things Catholic.

They are incredibly ignorant of History. They make claims that the Catholic Church either began at Pentecost and then went off the rails or was began in the mid 4th century by Constantine. It is not unusual for any one of them to hold both mutually exclusive views from time to time.

At the same time expressing the belief that their group was part of some invisible remnant that was somehow able to magically retain the faith these many years.

31 posted on 01/09/2015 9:02:25 AM PST by verga (Talking about God to a prot is like playing chess with a pigion)
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To: RnMomof7

You do know I am going to be making a Novena for you.


32 posted on 01/09/2015 9:04:47 AM PST by verga (Talking about God to a prot is like playing chess with a pigion)
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To: Salvation
#3 kept popping out at me. Jealousy, envy, resentment: those are my "frequent flyer" trips to the Confessional. I have such a hard time letting go of old hurts. For the sake of peace, I keep quiet, but sometimes it just eats me up inside if I don't constantly fight it. It seems like the persons involved just know what buttons to push, and I am so easily susceptible to it. Please keep me in prayer!

On another note, anybody notice the picture with the lady sitting looking in the mirror? It took me awhile- the skull popped out first...

God bless you!

33 posted on 01/09/2015 9:06:27 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: Grateful2God

It’s one of those double pictures, huh?


34 posted on 01/09/2015 9:11:01 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: verga

Do you know that the God of the bible does not hear that ??


35 posted on 01/09/2015 9:13:00 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: verga

I like that Godincidences. John Paul II always said there is not such thing as coincidences.


36 posted on 01/09/2015 9:14:33 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Grateful2God

**Jealousy, envy, resentment**

We had a visiting priest yesterday who asked us to re-read all the readings from 1 John, where he keeps telling us to love God and love our neighbor.

Then he said this is difficult sometimes because these people may have hurt us.

So he said “Pray for them.”
Do kind things for them.
Speak well of them.

And do not pray for yourself except to ask for the wisdom to do the above three things.

Powerful. I prayed for a lady off and on all day yesterday after that sermon.


37 posted on 01/09/2015 9:14:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: defconw
If God didn’t have a sense of humor he wouldn’t have made people.

Or this, either!


38 posted on 01/09/2015 9:18:20 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: Salvation
And please pray for me...

God bless you!

39 posted on 01/09/2015 9:20:35 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: verga

Let me know what it is and I’ll do the Novena with you.


40 posted on 01/09/2015 9:24:15 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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