Posted on 12/28/2014 9:06:22 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
Following a visit in March to Tacloban, the Philippine city devastated in 2012 by typhoon Haiyan, the pope will publish a rare encyclical on climate change and human ecology. Urging all Catholics to take action on moral and scientific grounds, the document will be sent to the world’s 5,000 Catholic bishops and 400,000 priests, who will distribute it to parishioners.
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To sum it up....this is just a simple list of a few things the Catholic church was “wrong about”:
1. World is flat.
2. Support of the Nazi party.
3. Keep the Bible in Latin to prevent regular people from reading it.
4. Persecution of heresy.
5. The Inquisition, and the burning of witches.
6. Fighting the Age of Enlightenment, then claiming they were power behind it.
7. The church belief for over four-hundred years in that the Earth was the center of the universe.
Following the lead of Cardinal Bernardin, the satanist homosexual, the majority of bishops have promoted the idea that those who favor the killing of babies will govern wisely and justly, and give us peace, while those who oppose the killing of babies want to kill and starve the poor, and give us nuclear war.
This was called “The Seamless Garment.”
Obama got the majority of the “Catholic vote” both times, as a direct result of the bishops’ tireless efforts to encourage Catholics to vote pro-abortion.
How about going down the list, and removing the ones that are lies? And then clarifying the ones that aren’t completely untrue.
Tacloban was hit in 2013, not 2012. I read it, and yes, it is not good. How about a recall election? If they never had one, maybe it's time to start one.
When I first heard about Jorge Mario Bergoglio becoming Pope, the bell of Liberation Theology rang in my mind. Could he be a secret supporter of this Marxist strategy to undermine the Catholic Church? I looked everywhere and everything indicated he was opposed to Liberation Theology. However, Communists are thorough not to reveal their true identity. What is emerging is that Francis has a “Marxist” political perspective on international finance and capitalism. That perspective also embraces Liberation Theology.
Some will criticize conservatives for their reaction to Francis as out of step with Christ. However, in Christ’s time, there was not the Capitalist model of free enterprise and the rule of law governed by a Constitution. The society Christ lived under was that of colonial rule by tyranny of the Roman Empire. The answer to today’s poor should not come with a rejection of Capitalism and an embrace of Marxism. And it should not say that those who reject Francis’ answer are rejecting Christ.
You are assuming a degree of intellectual honesty in the Pope that I believe he long ago demonstrated does not exist. He knows what the Leftist line on “climate change” is, and that’s all he needs to know.
As a matter of fact, eminent canon lawyers, including canonized saints, have held that the Cardinals CAN vote a Pope out of office.
No Catholic can “jettison” a Pope. Only the Cardinals, acting together, can do so.
The reason I started this thread was to do my little part to further discredit this Pope. The healthiest thing for the Church is for as many Catholics as possible to understand that we have a bad, stupid Pope, who should be mostly ignored, and in some circumstances, opposed.
The more this Pope can be discredited, the less harm he can do.
Maybe they should consider it. Has it ever been done before?
Not really. The Cardinals have sometimes elected a rival Pope, in effect firing the current Pope, either on account of heresy, or as a way of officially declaring his election to have been corrupt or invalid.
There were three Popes at some points during the Avignon papacy. AFAIK, there have never been more than three at one time.
This Pope is certainly the worst in several centuries. He has an affinity for notorious—notorious—homosexual priests and bishops, and a strong antipathy to holy, orthodox priests and bishops.
All Popes since John XXIII have poured a considerable amount of their energy into making a splash in the world, shaking up the Church, etc. If all the Popes since 1958 had devoted most of their energy to appointing holy, courageous, orthodox men as bishops—instead of the Conga line of homosexual Marxists they did in fact appoint—the Church and the world would be very different today.
I have never been a Fatima enthusiast, but the more I read about the Third Secret, and the flat refusal of all the Popes since 1960 to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart (each Pope had a “better” plan than the Blessed Mother’s)—well, the more likely it seems that we are suffering the effects of their pride and lack of faith.
Sorry....but the church defined their position on each of these, and was wrong. There were individual Catholic Bishops who stepped on the toes of Nazi Party....but overall, the leadership from Rome was either absent or in total compliance.
You have it backwards. There were anti-Nazi and pro-Nazi bishops. Pius XII was always anti-Hitler and anti-Nazi. All claims to the contrary originated with the Soviets, after his death. The tributes to him from Jews upon his death were many and profuse.
No educated person believes that the Church ever forced anyone to teach that the earth was flat. In fact, no educated person in Western Europe believed the earth was flat for many, many centuries before Columbus.
EVERYBODY burned heretics. Protestants burned plenty of Catholics, and vice versa. Not a special feature of the Catholic Church. “Bloody Mary” was, however, much less bloody than Elizabeth.
Catholic authorities in every age have acted and thought in a manner shaped by their age. Often, their opinions on various matters are cited as “the teaching of the Catholic Church,” when they are nothing of the kind. I suppose that, at SOME point in history, a Pope thought the earth was flat, and perhaps committed that opinion to writing.
So what? I’m sure the current Pope believes in germs, and that the earth is round. That doesn’t mean that “the Catholic Church” teaches the existence of germs, or that the earth is round.
The Magisterium of the Catholic Church has NEVER defined, as an article to be believed with divine faith, that the Earth is flat. Never. No matter how many Popes or Cardinals may have believed it was flat.
The current Pope apparently believes a lot of nonsense about a lot of matters. That doesn’t make any of his stupid opinions “the teaching of the Catholic Church.”
This guy thinks we want his opinion on everything. I prefer not to hear his opinion on anything.
It’s hard to imagine why in the world the Catholic church were be upset with wiz-kid Galileo in 1632. Wonder what Galileo was talking about....to get a bunch of old religious guys all hyped up and angry?
Galileo got in trouble for some theological propositions he put forth about the interpretation of Scripture.
The Galileo controversy had nothing to do with a flat earth.
Absolutely NOBODY believed in a flat earth at that time, except perhaps some isolated peasants.
-— The Galileo controversy had nothing to do with a flat earth.
Absolutely NOBODY believed in a flat earth at that time, except perhaps some isolated peasants.
In fact, a cardinal was funding Copernicus’ studies regarding heliocentrism, and Copernicus dedicated his book, “On the Heavens,” to the pope, who Copernicus believed would protect him from the... Drum roll please... Protestants.
I have to keep reminding myself that he is a flawed man elected by other flawed men, sinners all.
Heliocentrism has nothing to do with a flat earth.
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