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To: Resettozero

“No, He gave us none of those things.”

He sure did.

“Those corruptions of Holy Scripture were devised and added to Christianity by wicked men who either knew what they were doing or were deceived by their carnal inclinations.”

Christ didn’t corrupt Christianity nor did the Apostles. The things you speak of as corruption are part and parcel of Christianity as historic Churches know.

“(I can read their minds by seeing the nature of the fruit they bore: Corrupt rotten fruit.)”

Protestant sects are rotten fruit in themselves and look at what they have produced:

“Hence Protestants are obliged to cut their ninth commandment out of their Decalogue. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” must go, must disappear; their position requires the sacrifice. The substance, the force, the edge of their Tradition is slander. As soon as ever they disabuse their minds of what is false, and grasp only what is true,—I do not say they at once become Catholics; I do not say they lose their dislike to our religion, or their misgivings about its working;—but I say this, either they become tolerant towards us, and cease to hate us personally,—or, at least, supposing they cannot shake off old associations, and are prejudiced and hostile as before, still they find they have not the means of communicating their own feelings to others. To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation. There are indeed able men who can make a striking case out of anything or nothing, as great painters give a meaning and a unity to the commonest bush, and pond, and paling and stile: genius can do without facts, as well as create them; but few possess the gift. Taking things as they are, and judging of them by the long run, one may securely say, that the anti-Catholic Tradition could not be kept alive, would die of exhaustion, without a continual supply of fable.” (John Henry Newman, Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)


1,462 posted on 12/17/2014 12:32:12 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Christ didn’t corrupt Christianity nor did the Apostles.

You just LOVE playin' this tangent game; don't you!

1,469 posted on 12/17/2014 12:39:17 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
The things you speak of as corruption are part and parcel of Christianity as historic Churches know.

So THAT is why those seven CATHOLIC CHURCHES mentioned in the revelation to John are in ruins today!

1,471 posted on 12/17/2014 12:40:56 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
“Hence Protestants are obliged to cut their ninth commandment out of their Decalogue.

Call no man Father...

1,472 posted on 12/17/2014 12:42:03 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998

vlad, you and I see things differently. You and I are discussing two different understandings of who Jesus is.

Until you become born again of the Spirit, you simply cannot know where I’m coming from in these posts on FR.

Not being an RC, I well understand your implacable position as a defender on FR of all things Roman Catholic, regardless whether your explanations make sense or not.

I also know your demonstrations of what you ascribe as truth has not always been compatible or in line with the Holy Bible except via your own (RCC) private interpretations...as is the case with all (Christian) cults.

Time for you and me to break it off on FR?


1,475 posted on 12/17/2014 12:45:59 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: vladimir998; Resettozero
Is that the same John Henry Newman that said this;

"The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison, are all of pagan origin, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church."[Cardinal Newman - Development of Christian Doctrine, pg 373]

1,481 posted on 12/17/2014 1:08:33 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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