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To: Resettozero

“By the way, at this moment, Lord Jesus Christ has ascended into Heaven, seated at the right hand of the Father, and is NOT still on that crucifix thingy as a perpetual victim as celebrated in RCC Mass.”

And yet His sacrifice was forever in its importance and effectiveness so we honor it in memory and art.

“The once-for-all sacrifice in place of all sinners who believe in Him, HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. Not only that, He DIED, and later was RESURRECTED. And because of that, we believers are resurrected with him in His time and in the proper order.”

And our participation in His resurrection begins through Baptism (Romans 6:1-4).

“No priest, no Mary, no one on earth to call “Father”, no Mass, no Eucharist necessary for someone this very minute to call on Jesus with a repentant heart, to be saved from our sin and the second death.”

Except Christ, the High Priest, gave us priests (the Apostles) just as He gave us His mother (John 19). He gave us His flesh to eat (John 6, Luke 22) and the Mass (1 Cor 11). I see no reason to reject gifts from God.

“He has promised always to be with us...even to the very end of this age.”

Yep, through His Church, His Word (especially in the Church), His Body and Blood, and through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.


1,453 posted on 12/17/2014 11:32:43 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Except Christ, the High Priest, gave us priests (the Apostles) just as He gave us His mother (John 19). He gave us His flesh to eat (John 6, Luke 22) and the Mass (1 Cor 11). I see no reason to reject gifts from God.

No, He gave us none of those things. Those corruptions of Holy Scripture were devised and added to Christianity by wicked men who either knew what they were doing or were deceived by their carnal inclinations. (I can read their minds by seeing the nature of the fruit they bore: Corrupt rotten fruit.)
1,455 posted on 12/17/2014 11:38:09 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: vladimir998; Resettozero
>>Except Christ, the High Priest, gave us priests<<

No He didn't. Only through the corrupting of word meanings does the Catholic Church assign the name "priest". The truth is that the apostles called all believers "priests".

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood (hierateuma), a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

hierateuma - 2406 hieráteuma (from 2409 /hiereús, "priest") – priesthood. [http://biblehub.com/greek/2406.htm]

The Greek NEVER uses that word to describe the leadership other than the leadership of Christ.

1,458 posted on 12/17/2014 11:58:15 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: vladimir998
...just as He gave us His mother (John 19)...

No, Vlad; He did not.

He gave her to John.

NOWHERE is there any evidence that John handed her off to anyone else.


26 When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son.

27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.

1,464 posted on 12/17/2014 12:34:19 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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