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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; blessedvirginmary; catholic; mary; mystery; mysterybabylon; prayer; rcinventions; vanities; vanity; worship
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To: caww

Still...

So far; so good!


4,721 posted on 01/02/2015 5:01:54 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

Did you not read Acts 15?


4,722 posted on 01/02/2015 5:06:38 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Mark17; Old Yeller

And we all do once we leave the RCC and have our spiritual eyes opened.

Of course, we’re no longer in a position of violating God’s command by participating in a religious system’s practices and so it’s easier to admit what it really is.

No one wants to admit that they’re sinning, so as humankind is sooooo prone to do, they rationalize it way, excuse it, justify it.

Same with the calling their priests *Father*. Jesus is crystal clear about *Call no man on earth Father*, using the title to address religious leaders, and yet not one Catholic that I have ever met admits that they are disobeying a clear, concise, unambiguous command of Jesus.


4,723 posted on 01/02/2015 5:09:14 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: annalex; redleghunter; EagleOne; metmom; boatbums
>>If the scripture is silent on the subject, of course we cannot test the decisions of the Holy Church with the scripture directly, and the decision stands simply because the Church in her wisdom took it.<<

Mormons, Muslims, and Catholics. I see a trend there.

4,724 posted on 01/02/2015 5:11:06 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl

Judas was the treasurer for the apostles before Jesus died and rose again.

The church essentially began at Pentecost, when the disciples were infused with power from on high.

Judas was long gone by then and was never baptized in the Holy Spirit as the other 120 were.


4,725 posted on 01/02/2015 5:11:41 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: caww

Happy New YEar...a day late! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm2mmlt81pM


4,726 posted on 01/02/2015 5:12:59 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Springfield Reformer; terycarl
There is the added complication for tc, of the very Catechism of the Catholic church saying the very thing that he is claiming is reading between the line and making up hypothetical possibilities.......

Here.....

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1D.HTM

424 Moved by the grace of the Holy Spirit and drawn by the Father, we believe in Jesus and confess: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”8 On the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter, Christ built his Church.9 (683, 552)

4,727 posted on 01/02/2015 5:20:17 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl; Elsie
>>it is you that is hung up on putting blood in your body<<

Why do you twist words? "Putting blood in your body"?? No one here said that. Scripture is clear about not eating blood. Jesus was born under the law and clearly under the prohibition of eating blood when Catholics claim He did so and encouraged other Jews to do the same. It would have been a clear violation of the law and a sin.

4,728 posted on 01/02/2015 5:21:17 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl
He said "DO THIS"...remember that part??


 
 

 

 

Luke 22:1 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

Now the feast of unleavened bread, which is called the pasch, was at hand.

And the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might put Jesus to death: but they feared the people.

And Satan entered into Judas, who was surnamed Iscariot, one of the twelve.

And he went, and discoursed with the chief priests and the magistrates, how he might betray him to them.

And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money.

And he promised. And he sought opportunity to betray him in the absence of the multitude.

And the day of the unleavened bread came, on which it was necessary that the pasch should be killed.

And he sent Peter and John, saying: Go, and prepare for us the pasch, that we may eat.

But they said: Where wilt thou that we prepare?

10 And he said to them: Behold, as you go into the city, there shall meet you a man carrying a pitcher of water: follow him into the house where he entereth in.

11 And you shall say to the goodman of the house: The master saith to thee, Where is the guest chamber, where I may eat the pasch with my disciples?

12 And he will shew you a large dining room, furnished; and there prepare.

13 And they going, found as he had said to them, and made ready the pasch.

14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.

15 And he said to them: With desire I have desired to eat this pasch with you, before I suffer.

16 For I say to you, that from this time I will not eat it, till it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

17 And having taken the chalice, he gave thanks, and said: Take, and divide it among you:

18 For I say to you, that I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, till the kingdom of God come.

19 And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me.

20 In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.

21 But yet behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

4,729 posted on 01/02/2015 5:21:47 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

Ah... Denial...


4,730 posted on 01/02/2015 5:22:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
what don't you understand about that?????

Uh... the My belief part?

4,731 posted on 01/02/2015 5:23:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
>>In either case the Church uses her authority throughout history to propose things for our salvation, for example, by establishing liturgical norms and canons.<<

So also say the Muslims and the Mormons.

4,732 posted on 01/02/2015 5:23:44 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl
the eunuch was rejoicing because he was now a Catholic....see how it works....Thanks Philip!!


So, Bob; when did you officially abandon Islam and become a Catholic?

4,733 posted on 01/02/2015 5:24:30 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex

The Holy Spirit through scripture only uses “full of grace” for Jesus and Stephen.


4,734 posted on 01/02/2015 5:26:34 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl
In many of your posts you post quotations from the Bible which the Catholic church has provided for you...how can you use the book which they gave you to refute them?????amazing

Your First Pope said...
 
 
 
2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters.
His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort,
as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

4,735 posted on 01/02/2015 5:26:44 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
....it's in the Bible, look it up.

We have; it ain't.


If it were, you could point to it.

4,736 posted on 01/02/2015 5:27:41 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The first Pope was talking about you.


4,737 posted on 01/02/2015 5:27:55 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: terycarl
The Catholic church came to power in Rome with Peter, her first Pope.

And he was SUCH a great teacher; too!


Galatians 2:11
When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned



What???

THIS is in the book the ROME compiled???



4,738 posted on 01/02/2015 5:30:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

I wonder if any of those wicked popes ALSO abused little boys???


4,739 posted on 01/02/2015 5:31:29 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
He meant Peter and, in fact, called him by name.

The

CONDEMNED Peter?

Or the SATANIC one??

4,740 posted on 01/02/2015 5:32:26 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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