Why are you admitting frailties like that?
I agree with your self depiction, though!
Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.
Seems somewhere I saw a post castigating someone who had made an error in grammar. So, Mr. Degree, your's must not be in English!
(Add a comma where needed, and proofread your post before hitting "post"... since your sentence structure is lacking definition) See now, that wasn’t difficult. It want wasn’t worth reading and doesn’t deserve more of a response. But, it wasn’t difficult.
Or IOW, "it doesn't agree with my cult, so I cannot refute truth by posing half-truths and innuendo..." so I'll just pretend I see nothing of value.
I'll pray for your eyes to be opened to the Truth of the Gospel, the Good News about Jesus, not the woman God used to carry His child!
See post 3920.
Why are you admitting frailties like that?
I agree with your self depiction, though!
I will pray for you.
Don't pray to Mary. She's dead, Jim...
Verga, trust me bro, he IS funny, but he ain't sad and he REALLY ain't little.
He WV, telling the truth can be hazardous to your health :-)
you know those engineer types....everything's gotta fit in a box!
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit was given to individuals. It was NEVER given to a group or organization.
Worshipping a cracker carried around on the end of a stick is idolatry.
No, Mary is not the queen of heaven and the sign in Revelation 12 is not a sign of Mary. It's a sign of the nation of Israel as prophesied in Isaiah.
Isaiah 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. 8 Who has ever heard of such things? Who has ever seen things like this? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.
We see that sign appearing in heaven in Revelation 12.
Revelation 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who "will rule all the nations with an iron scepter." And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
The Catholic doctrine of elevating Mary is simply an attempt to justify inclusion of pagan beliefs in order to attract pagans into the religion of Catholicism.
I don't want to get into a fully entangled debate with you or anyone but the portions below leaped out at me (not literally of course) and perhaps if not helping you it may help another:
First you quote extensively from St. DeMontfort, particularly his "Secret of Mary". I wonder though if you took his advice in paragraph 2.
2. "Before you read any further, kneel down and devoutly say a prayer. Ask God to help you understand and appreciate this secret, which is really given by him. You must prepare your soul if you would profit from this secret. You may certainly pray that God deliver you from any deception, and that he illumine your mind with a spirit of discernment. Any illumination that comes from God always has a good effect upon the soul. Pray that God give you the grace of discernment, that you may understand what I am about to teach you."
Did you read that, BD? Did you do as he suggested, in a pious and genuine manner? In a way not seeking guidance from God to help you prove your case, but guidance from Him to discover the truth, wherever that leads you? Did you do that before reading the Saint's writjngs?
I ask not to put you on the spot but to stress the importance of what he said here as it's also found (in other words) in my post that you later provided. If not said more charitably and helpfully by the Saint.
This is not the stuff of cut and paste in other words. You can't even read his entire work there, without preparing yourself as he describes, and expect any result other than perhaps the one you have obtained. If you wish to study the work of a Saint you have to live as he lived, or at least do as he did as described in paragraph 2.
Just a point to consider.
Secondly, you ask: Yet somehow this sort of talk does not equate with Mary herself sharing top billing (and worship) with God the Father, even though she is said to be "administrator and dispenser of all [His] graces".
This is the portion of your post that I found particularly striking. Striking because in the question itself, a quote is present thst answers that very question.
"All His Graces". "All His Graces". "All His Graces".
The last word is yours because again, I do not seek debate with you or anyone anymore. I leave that to the more even tempered here.
I think not. Read Jesus words to the seven churches recorded in Revelation. He didn't focus on the "things they agreed on" but addressed the areas they had strayed. This "things we have in common" appeal is bogus.
No
Now you've done it!
Will we PROTS be on level TWO with MOST of the MORMONS?
Mary didn’t, seeing that she’d never been with a man.
Acts 15
The pope is “not well educated”
What a matta, PROT?
Can’t You talk outta both sides of YOUR mouth?
It appears that your great learning has driven you insane.
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