Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.
Bonehead!
Yer a BLIND rat.
You started at a REALLY old page that hadn't been refreshed...
make me write bad checks...
I never met....and the one I did meet...O.K.
before you erroneously gave up on Catholicism, you should have looked much deeper into the church teachings (very easy to do) there is a 2,000 year history of success in Christianity in the Catholic church. Without glitches, of course not, entirely operated by humans, all good humans?, not a chance, but overall, protected by the promise to watch over her and be with her until the end of time. To be born in the 20th century, have some knowledge of the history of Christianity, and then decide that you, as an individual could rewrite the whole show and venture off on your own route to salvation strikes me as more than arrogant...but ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS.
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
That "judgement" is not for unbelievers as the White Throne Judgement will be.
Afterwards she said to me “Now you are reset to zero.”
Actually you have the numbers wrong.
Catholicism didn't start until about 400 years after Jesus appeared on the scene in the Mideast.
And soon after that happened, the world went into what is referred to as the Dark Ages. (Look it up)
So the 1600 years is how long Catholics have been bowing down and to Mary and using her for salvation instead of Jesus. [Some do go directly to Jesus as they know that is the Biblical way to Salvation.]
There were only Christians back in Jesus' time, no denominations even though there were various different churches in many areas.
The actual church that Jesus is a part of is made up of EVERY person who recognize Him as the Creator and Savior of our souls, and give their lives to following Him. Born again Christians with a personal relationship with Jesus, Him in us and us in Him.
All it takes is repenting and following Jesus. Being in the world, but not of it.
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.--John 17, 14-16
Must Catholics continue to do that? Take words out of context to infer that they are contradictory?
Here is the context showing what you left out so it would appear the poster was being duplicigous, when actually the ones pulling that underhanded tactic are the ones being duplicitous. I understand you have to "debate" in the way you are instructe, but don't expect to not be called on it.
In context with bolding for your edification and to show the deception attempted:
I have never met a Catholics who ever studied the word on their own. And the one I knew who did study the word, did it in a Bible study led by a priest, so everything is vetted through the priest first.See how clever you were? That will show those "prots" that I have been a Catholic for 2012 years!
Metmom, isn't this a good place for Reagan's famous comment "There you go again?"
Catholics debate like Mormons, who had to watch a teaching that told them to "Don't answer the questions they ask, answer the questions they should have asked."
And the Catholics accuse Christians of taking things out of context...LOL
Catholicism didn't start until about 400 years after Jesus appeared on the scene in the Mideast.
Actually, you're wrong:
The Didache (70-100 AD) or "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles" is a manuscript which was used by 2nd century bishops and priests for the instruction of catechumens. Many early Christian writers have referenced it making this document relatively easy to date.
"Let no one eat and drink of your Eucharist but those baptized in the name of the Lord; to this, too the saying of the Lord is applicable: 'Do not give to dogs what is sacred'". -Ch. 9:5
"On the Lord's own day, assemble in common to break bread and offer thanks; but first confess your sins, so that your sacrifice may be pure. However, no one quarreling with his brother may join your meeting until they are reconciled; your sacrifice must not be defiled. For here we have the saying of the Lord: 'In every place and time offer me a pure sacrifice; for I am a mighty King, says the Lord; and my name spreads terror among the nations.'"
Where's your Eucharist?
I don't know how to ping anyone other than the person who wrote the post that I am answering.so, sorry about that
The Eastern schism Catholics and the Roman Catholics are one church with internal differences...No, the church does not teach condemnation for denying the supremacy of the Pope.
the differences between the various Catholic branches are very minor in nature but serious only to those seeking total unity. Catholics of whatever branch are ALL CATHOLIC and represent the totality of Christianity.
As far as comparing Catholic divisions with the various protestant denominations, there is no analogy at all. The Protestant denominations are all independent of one another...they certainly share a majority of Christian heritage, but ALL of them differ on the interpretation of serious areas of Christian doctrines.All the Catholic groups KNOW that they are right and All of the protestant denominations think that they alone are right.
The restrictions on meat on Friday, eating for a certain time before Communion..all church rules, the abstinance from meat, for example wasn't even nearly universal...very localized. The sin, if one violated the rule, was denying that Christ's church (Catholic) had the authority to guide its members.
But, of course, you should know all this but because you couldn't understand it, you decided to make your own rules.......and then you accuse the Catholic church of doing exactly the same thing....O.K. for you, not O.K. for millions of Catholics before you....
LOL, hay I trimmed my beard and look semi-acceptable now!
Everyone is spryer than I am, I’m older than dirt...
As I saw posted earlier up thread, I’m one of those that must wait for my joints to catch up before I can move around after standing up.
I once was tempted to use the medicine used on goats for CAE, DMSO I think it is called, but declined. (Elsie will know what CAE is)
Where is it mentioned in the Bible?
Your quotes do not show Catholicism existing earlier than I stated.
Thank goodness it didn't start way back when Catholics say it did, the Dark Ages came soon enough as it was.
no it doesn't
What about the [so called] inferior illegitimate "separated" brethren?
It's been explained to you many times who Jesus' church is made up of.
In fact upthread a bit I taught you about it AGAIN, no problem. Jesus had many things repeated in the Bible so those that wish to deny His Truth can stumble across it again sometime.
Those eyes to see and ears to hear are talked about a lot by Jesus.
Oh and BTW, Jesus accepts no separated Christians, but takes gladly those that are not affiliated with the Catholic Church as true followers of God.
Great debate technique!
Actually thanks for just posting a denial.
Do you know how to type a comma and a poster’s name?
That’s a hint for a solution to the excuse you give for not pinging posters when you talk about them behind their backs.
I'd truly like to research that...could you please supply their names...........crickets
Where is what mentioned in the bible?
Your quotes do not show Catholicism existing earlier than I stated.
On the contrary they absolutely refute your statement. The institute of the Eucharist is proven historically to predate your assertion by at least 300 years.
Thank goodness it didn't start way back when Catholics say it did, the Dark Ages came soon enough as it was.
I suggest you take a history class. Lest you find yourself accompanied by fellow travelers of the new atheism.
Just curious. Do you not feed the babies for a day before they are baptised also?
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