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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
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| 12-14-14
| ealgeone
Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not mans standard.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; blessedvirginmary; catholic; mary; mystery; mysterybabylon; prayer; rcinventions; vanities; vanity; worship
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To: DuncanWaring
Now that you mention it, why is the commandment Honor your mother and father, rather than Honor your mom and dad?I didn't "mention" it. I referenced Scripture to refute any false assertions coming from your non-suitor question. Besides which, you still have shown no Scripture to support or refute the theme of this thread. I will respond to your obvious attempt to defect or divert attention from the false status ascribed to Mary and give you this response from Paul! The question posted to start this thread is "Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical? The obvious conclusion is NO!
Ephesians 1: 17 I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. 18 I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people, 19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength 20 he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. 22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way. ...
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:14:05 PM PST
by
WVKayaker
(Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
To: caww
What “church” is that? Surely not the Roman Catholic....yet.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:16:20 PM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: Iscool
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:19:36 PM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: terycarl
in the year ....say...1192, how many Christians were there in the world that were not Catholic?? in the year ....say...1192, how many POPES were there in the world that were not EVIL??
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:21:39 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ealgeone
Hey, tell that to the Vatican store. Their website says it....not mine.
www.vaticangift.com/
On request we will bring them to receive the Blessing from His Holiness Pope Francis.
Vatican Gift is born to be your friend into the Vatican City and bring to you ...
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:22:24 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: freedumb2003
CB, I can save you some time in the future. Just post: * Standard Catholic Bash #1 * Standard Catholic Bash #2 * Standard Catholic Bash #3Can I list your chosen religion's EVIL POPES this way as well?
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:23:19 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: SpirituTuo
Your clearly have a reading comprehension problem. You brood of vipers...
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:23:51 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: DuncanWaring
Now that you mention it, why is the commandment Honor your mother and father, rather than Honor your mom and dad?It's a bible thing...You guys wouldn't understand apparently...It's alright to acknowledge that you have a biological father...Obviously Jesus knew down the line a fake religion would come along and demand its followers call its leaders 'father'...And Jesus countered that in advance by telling us and you that there is only ONE spiritual Father and it ain't a priest in your religion, therefore, call no man father...No one gets away from stealing God's glory...It's really not difficult to understand...
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:23:53 PM PST
by
Iscool
(e)
To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Heresy Alert!!
As the Queen of Heaven, Mary is due veneration.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:24:25 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: CynicalBear
CB:
This isn't a fight between Catholics and Protestant.
Correct me if I am wrong...but isn't this an attempt to bring truth to Catholics.
To: terycarl
after it's sold and YOU OWN IT! Thank GOD for the difference!
I was worried there for a bit.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:25:17 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: freedumb2003; CynicalBear
>>Backed up by scripture. Which by the way Ive noticed you never do.<< If you mean I dont cherry-pick individual passages and then make them fit whatever hate-filled agenda I have: guilty as charged.
Why didn't you just say, 'No, I don't bother with scripture'???
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:26:08 PM PST
by
Iscool
(e)
To: CynicalBear
Where does the "word" restrict the number of "churches" that would be in errorThe world KNOWS of at least seven; and EVERY one was a CATHOLIC church!!!
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=seven+churches+in+asia+ruins&qpvt=seven+churchs+in+asia+ruins&FORM=IGRE
Scrooge was shown Christmas Future...
How long will it be before the Vatican looks like the above?
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:28:24 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
LC...they are adrift. We need to pull them in the boat.
God loves them...it is out job to save them...not to destroy them.
To: freedumb2003
You stated...."Scripture is a complex and interrelated fabric that defines Christianity and the relationship between Man and God".....
Scripture rightly and fully is the announcement of Jesus Christ Coming, His Arrival, His Life, Death and Resurrection, and the Revelation of Who He is until HE comes again.....from the beginning of the Scriptures to the end....it's ALL points to Him and is about Him..
Jesus is the Key which unlocks the Scripture to our understanding thru and by His Spirit....it will be complex and confusing only to those who don't know Him.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:28:41 PM PST
by
caww
To: MamaB
Could you/others be jealous because he seems to know a whole lot more about the Bible than yall? I enjoy his posts because they are the truth and I have learned a lot from them.Speaking only for myself, no ma'am.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:30:08 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: CynicalBear
At your request we will bring it to receive the Blessing from the Holy FatherI wonder; is that one at a time; or the whole days worth of sales in a big box?
My name is Francis; and I approve of this blessing.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:30:48 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: DuncanWaring
It demonstrates that your waving of the Call no man Father banner means nothing to you in your own private life; its merely a weapon you use in an attempt to discredit the Catholic church.Your book, your command, your choice...
Matthew 23:9
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:33:12 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: CynicalBear
It's going to be there sooner than they think...The Nuns will see to that.
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:33:20 PM PST
by
caww
To: don-o
I did a count and find that you have posted around 100 comments since this morning. Pfft!
This is a mere pittance!
Wait 'til I become a SAINT.
Then watch the output climb!!
If only 1% of Catholics pray to St. Elsie...
...139 a SECOND and he ain't even DIVINE!
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posted on
12/16/2014 5:36:03 PM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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