Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum ofsometimes emotionalopinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
Typos baffle you THAT much?
Using a feather is sensuous.
Using a whole chicken is kinky.
I think we simply need to go way back and understand who it is that wants to keep souls from committing themselves to Jesus alone. Any time we trust in something other than Jesus it detracts from our commitment to Him. When the praise and glory that belongs to Him is given to another the enemy rejoices.
I'll go with Jesus alone.
John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
That’s alotta eternal souls right there.
“Typos baffle you THAT much?”
Not usually, but since “prop.test” is an actual word, it appeared you were trying to be clever in some way and had a typo anyway. My mistake. I didn’t understand you simply made a mistake rather than simply mistakenly trying to be clever. If I always remember that error is your natural default position everything will be fine.
Elsie,
You do so much to prove Newman right.
“To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation. ... Taking things as they are, and judging of them by the long run, one may securely say, that the anti-Catholic Tradition could not be kept alive, would die of exhaustion, without a continual supply of fable. (John Henry Newman, Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)
“I’ll go with Jesus alone.”
If only that were true.
DAMN!
The Rapture occurred and I'm still here!
till...
“The Rapture occurred and I’m still here!”
I got news for you: even if the Rapture (a man-made doctrine) were true you would still be here in any case. You’ve made that more than clear.
“till...”
No “till”.
You are in graver danger if you attribute miracles of the Holy Spirit to demons. And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Your post is a prayer to yourself.
A little less convoluted now I suppose She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
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