Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum of—sometimes emotional—opinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
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I just started mine in pots the other day. I will also plant some outside a couple of weeks before the last expected frost. (the ground doesn't freeze here).
>>I'm thinking I could make some strong ginger tea with these crystals (real ginger+honey+sugar) and then mix it half and half with seltzer water.<<
I love ginger tea. You will find the fresh ginger much better. Don't put too much fresh ginger in unless you like the sting of spicy.
>>And my arthritic left knee thanks you.<<
I had polio when I was 2 years old. I couldn't begin to tell the aches and pains that has caused especially now as I get older. If you haven't already do some research on the health benefits of ginger. I suspect you have already.
It's also true that Heaven is not obtained but by being incorporated into Christ. Having in you the Mind of Christ. Saying, like St. Paul, "Now I live; yet not 'I', but Christ lives in me."
Recognizing other Members of the Body of Christ as being members of you, and you being members of them.
1 Cor. 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
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Bless you dear heart for saying that. I suspected as much and it's gratifying to have it confirmed.
>>But it is never so in an isolated way, since we are all members of the Body of Christ. Being "in Christ", we are also being brought into living, vital contact with the others Members of His Body.<<
I agree. Now if we could just agree that the "body" is not restricted to any "denomination" or formally organized "religion".
We’ll just agree to disagree on that one.
That’s because as much as they deny following men, they do.
You can tell by their actions. They are always referring to what someone else did and thinking that it will have an impact on our individual lives.
Well, that would be the case if we followed men instead of Christ, but since we follow Christ, we recognize that each man answers to God and we do not stand and fall based on other’s actions.
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Did I read that correctly?
Really??
Every Apostle and disciple in the NT a comes to "know the Lord and accept Him as their Savior" as an adult.
You take the constant experience of the Church from the NT up to the present day, and call it a "statistic impossibility"? Yes, I realize that you conceded that the Holy Spirit could pull it off, but you don't seem to think it happens much, when in fact it happens all the time, praise be to God!
Some wonderful Christians evidently were committed to God from their childhood, but there's a good big bunch that don't really commit until they have an adult conversion experience.
I guess my perception is shaped by my experience on our parish RCIA Teaching Team. We're seeing these adult relaionships with Jesus root, bud and bloom in adults.
We need many more. Many, many more.
It might work here if the growing season was long enough.
We’re about arctic tundra right about now for climate zones.
Does not destroy the temples, vestments, practices and other rituals and beliefs of pagans. As an example we could look at the Pantheon. It was a temple to all the gods of the pagans. Instead of destroying it as God commanded it was used as a Temple by Catholics. Another would be the vestments worn by priests. The pointed mitre worn by priests is the same as worn by priests to the pagan fish god Dagon. The Catholic Church, by it's own admission incorporated much of paganism under the guise of "baptising them". That was strictly forbidden by God.
But we do agree on that.
Having lived up there for those nearly two years I think you could if you start them in pots then replant outdoors after the last frost. I would think if you leave rhizomes like lilies in the ground you could do the same with ginger if you deep mulch them but I can’t be sure. It would be worth a try.
That could be amended as the vast majority of Catholics have no concept of a personal savior.
If you do, that’s great.
But what I’ve found talking to Catholics and saying something like that is they either look at you like you have two heads, or are speaking another language, or their eyes just glaze over.
The concept that you could go right to Jesus without going through the church or a priest or some other Catholic church approved means, never occurs to them.
They just don’t think it’s possible to do it that way.
I know it's developed the right bacteria when I see bubbles around the top before I stir it. That's a sign the bacteria is digesting the sugar producing carbon dioxide. That normally happens here about the second day after starting a new batch. If I used some from the old batch it's pretty much continuous like it is with sour dough.
BTW I have never been able to get bread to rise with just sourdough starter. I'd have never enjoyed bread before the availability of yeast I suppose.
Unless they get out of that mindset they will never understand. If they only understood that it has no affect on us what "Protestants do or believe" they would understand that trotting out those old memes is worthless.
I can walk with a cane (in a mincing wincing way) but to be reasonably pain free I need a diclofenac topical application (Voltaren) and/or prednisolone which I pulverize in my spice grinder and mainly add to the Voltaren to apply topically, not orally, so it doesn't eventually kill me dead. (I get this all this stuff OTC online from Poland, India, and other countries that have this neat system, what's known as a "Free Market," now sadly missing from the USA.)
Poland and India on my knee.
I do think I'd like to ratchet up the ginger/turmeric so I can take the prenisolone down a notch.
Dear CB!! How many of your joints are affected by the aftereffects of polio?
We do? Well praise God!!!
That's no guarantee that it doesn't happen.
And when you have people praying to commit their lives fully to Mary, that's worship as is demonstrated by these prayers.
People placing their eternal salvation in HER hands?
Idolatry, plain and simple.
Jesus our JUDGE?
Nope, He's our savior. God is the judge.
http://www.marypages.com/PrayerstoMary.htm
Mary, Help of Those in Need
Holy Mary, help those in need, give strength to the weak, comfort the sorrowful, pray for God's people, assist the clergy, intercede for religious. Mary all who seek your help experience your unfailing protection. Amen.
Morning Consecration to Mary
My Queen, My Mother, I offer myself entirely to thee. And to show my devotion to thee, I offer thee this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve.
Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession. Amen.
Prayer to Our Lady of Guadalupe
Dear Mother, we love you. We thank you for your promise to help us in our need. We trust in your love that dries our tears and comforts us. Teach us to find our peace in your Son, Jesus, and bless us every day of our lives.
Help us to build a shrine in our hearts. Make it as beautiful as the one built for you on the Mount of Tepeyac. A shrine full of trust, hope, and love of Jesus growing stronger each day. Mary, you have chosen to remain with us by giving us your most wonderful and holy self-image on Juan Diego's cloak. May we feel your loving presence as we look upon your face. Like Juan, give us the courage to bring your message of hope to everyone.
You are our Mother and our inspiration. Hear our prayers and answer us. Amen.
The Memorare
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help or sought your intercession, was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word incarnate, despise not my petitions, but, in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen.
Lady of Perpetual Help Novenas
First Novena Prayer ( 1st. and 5th. Saturday)
Behold at thy feet, O Mother of Perpetual Help,| a wretched sinner who has recourse to thee and confides in thee.| O Mother of mercy, have pity on me. I hear thee called by all the refuge and the hope of sinners:| be then, my refuge and my hope.
Assist me, for the love of Jesus Christ;| stretch forth thy hand to a miserable fallen creature who recommends himself to thee, and who devotes himself to thy service for ever.| I bless and thank Almighty God, who in His mercy has given me this confidence in thee,| which I hold to be a pledge of my eternal salvation.|
It is true that in the past I have miserably fallen into sin,| because I had not recourse to thee.| I know that, with thy help, I shall conquer.| I know too, that thou wilt assist me, if I recommend myself to thee;| but I fear dear Mother | that in time of danger, I may neglect to call on thee,| and thus lose my soul.| This grace, then, I ask of thee, and this I beg, with all the fervor of my soul,| that in all the attacks of hell I may ever have recourse to thee.| O Mary, help me.| O Mother of Perpetual Help, never suffer me to lose my God.
3 Ave’s
Hail Mary , full of grace , the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, JESUS. R: Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
Second Novena Prayer (2nd. and 4th. Saturday) O Mother of Perpetual Help, MBgrant that I may ever invoke thy most powerful name, which is the safeguard of the living and the salvation of the dying. O purest Mary, O sweetest Mary, let thy name henceforth be ever on my lips. Delay not, O Blessed Lady, to help me, whenever I call on thee; for, in all my temptations, in all my needs, I shall never cease to call on thee, ever repeating thy sacred name, Mary, Mary. O what consolation, what sweetness, what confidence, what emotion fills my soul when I utter thy sacred name, or even only think of thee. I thank the Lord for having given thee, for my good, so sweet, so powerful, so lovely a name. But I will not be content with merely uttering thy name. Let my love for thee prompt me ever to hail thee, Mother of Perpetual Help.
3 Ave’s
Third Novena Prayer ( 3rd. Saturday)
O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, dearest Mother, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, dear Mother, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. 3 Hail Marys.
http://motherofperpetualhelp.blogspot.com/2007/06/three-novena-prayers.html
And it varies from year to year, of course!
Nothing to complain about, though. It does not get crushingly, killingly hot in summer, nor does it get so very cold or snowy in winter. No tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanoes or hurricanes, either. Just the occasional tornado, only once I can remember on the southern edge of our county. Only hit the double-wides, of course. (Why is that??)
Upper East Tennessee is the best place in the world.
Now there's something to argue about!!!
We got the Southern Appalachians!! So there!!
When I was younger (through I would say 50) it was primarily my right leg. As I got older it spread and I got concerned. I was told that as you get older the polio begins to affect again. It's called post polio syndrome and simply caused more loss of strength. Now at near 70 it's nearly impossible to walk more than 100 yrds and that with the support of a cane or staff and working on my feet impossible after about 10 minutes. I do all my gardening on my rear end crawling on the ground. It's not pretty but it gets the job done. In the green house and in my shop I have a stool on wheels.
LOL You can have em. I stumble over a slight rise in elevation and temps below 50 cause my joints to stiffen up like molasses.
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