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Rick Warren at the Vatican: "We’re More Effective and Better Together Than We Are Apart"
Aleteia ^ | 11/24/14 | Diane Montagna

Posted on 11/24/2014 6:13:56 AM PST by marshmallow

Saddleback Church founder speaks at Vatican-hosted Humanum Colloquium.

Pastor Rick Warren, Founder and Senior Pastor of Saddleback Church—an evangelical megachurch located in Lake Forest, California—was among the featured presenters at last week's Vatican-hosted Colloquium on the Complementarity of Man and Woman. Also known as the Humanum Colloquium, the conference gathered leaders and scholars from various Christian and non-Christian religions across the globe November 17-19 to examine and propose anew the beauty of the relationship between man and woman in marriage.

Warren, one of the most prominent evangelical leaders in the world, is perhaps most widely known as the author of the bestselling books The Purpose Driven Church and The Purpose Driven Life.

Aleteia's Rome correspondent sat down with Pastor Warren at the conclusion of the Humanum Colloquium to discuss his experience at the interreligious event; the six points of what he calls a "Purpose Driven Marriage"; and his first trip across the Tiber.

Pastor Warren, what has been your impression of this week’s colloquium on the complementarity of man and woman in marriage?

I think it was great because you heard people not only from the streams of Christianity but also non-Christian religions showing solidarity with us about what we call the biblical definition of marriage: one man and one woman for life.

That’s a good thing. Right now in the world, the minority view is getting the majority of press, and you just don’t hear the fact that the vast majority of people believe that marriage is what it’s always been since the Creation: one man and one woman for life.

What have been some of the highlights of the Humanum Colloquium?

Rabbi [Jonathan] Sacks is a friend of mine, and his message was outstanding. [Jacqueline] Rivers’ message was just outstanding. Sr. Prudence was just fantastic. She is so brilliant.

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To: vladimir998
No. The Catholic faith has a contiguous history stretching back to Christ and the Apostles.

IF this were true; there would be EVIDENCE of it: not conjecture.

61 posted on 11/25/2014 5:48:14 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I think this thread is a YACVP one; this one’s going to wind down soon.


62 posted on 11/25/2014 5:48:22 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: goat granny
WOW!

My white Casper needs his toenails trimmed and he doesn't go down easily either!

I'm thinking of getting (or making) this cute little device...



Ya just back him up to it, pickup his front feet and over he goes!

(Ya... if he's heavily sedated!!!)

63 posted on 11/25/2014 5:55:31 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: darkangel82

or a dry one; for that matter.


64 posted on 11/25/2014 5:56:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: piusv

the old adage is still true...

“Ya get whatcha pay for.”


65 posted on 11/25/2014 5:57:08 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero; teppe
Because they just HATE to be left out!

Right; teppe??

66 posted on 11/25/2014 5:57:58 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“IF this were true; there would be EVIDENCE of it: not conjecture.”

There is evidence - as many Protestants have discovered.

Here’s an example:

My whole life, marriage, family, and career were bound up in Protestantism. My discoveries in Church history were an enormous threat to that identity, so I turned to biblical studies looking for comfort and help. I thought that if I could be absolutely confident in the Reformers’ appeal to Scripture, then I essentially could dismiss 1500 years of Christian history. I avoided Catholic scholarship, or books that I thought were intended to undermine my faith, and focused instead on what I thought were the most objective, historical, and also Protestant works of Biblical scholarship. I was looking for rock-solid proof that the Reformers were right in their understanding of Paul. What I did not know was that the best in twentieth century Protestant scholarship had already rejected Luther’s reading of the Bible. http://chnetwork.org/2012/02/a-protestant-historian-discovers-the-catholic-church-conversion-story-of-a-david-anders-ph-d/

Or:

The Devil Theory collapses on the most superficial analysis. Christians justifiably take pride in their heritage, yet the Catholic Church was the only Christian Church for at least 1500 years (leaving aside the 11th century Orthodox break). Why would Christ have allowed his Church to wallow in the mire of falsehood and heresy for so long? What kind of witness would that have provided to the world? If Christ did indeed establish a Church, wouldn’t He have providentially protected her from significant error? http://www.reformed.org/webfiles/antithesis/index.html?mainframe=/webfiles/antithesis/v1n5/ant_v1n5_why.html

Or:

One of the most satisfying things about my discovery of the Catholic Church is that it fully satisfied my desire for historical rootedness. I began to study history believing in that continuity of faith and trying desperately to find it. Even when I thought I had found it in the Reformation, I still had to contend with the enormous gulf of the Catholic Middle Ages. Now, thanks to what Calvin taught me, there are no more missing links. On November 16, 2003 I finally embraced the faith “once for all delivered to the Saints.” I entered the Catholic Church. http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2010/06/how-john-calvin-made-me-a-catholic/


67 posted on 11/25/2014 6:01:48 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Elsie
Ya just back him up to it, pickup his front feet and over he goes!

No soft, fluffy pillow to catch his head?
68 posted on 11/25/2014 6:02:10 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Elsie; teppe
Well; they sure do SING good; even if they DON'T believe some of the stuff that comes out of their mouths...
 
 
We are not divided
All one body we
One in hope and doctrine
One in charity
 
http://www.lyricsnmusic.com/tabernacle/onward-christian-soldiers-lyrics/2396552

69 posted on 11/25/2014 6:05:22 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
Well; you've posted the HERESAY; but, as Clara used to wonder: Where's the beef?

Show the evidence; not other peoples claims to have seen it.

I get enough of that rigamarole from the 'witnesses' to the Mormon Golden Plates.

70 posted on 11/25/2014 6:07:34 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: .45 Long Colt
He was, and ostensibly is, an evangelical of the mushy, compromised, Message Bible, praise band, Jesusy love song, goat baptizing, navel-gazing, cheesy drama, short pep-talk self-improvement sermon, manmade church growth, loyalty oath, coffee and bagel bar, mega-church wing.

Bullseye.

71 posted on 11/25/2014 6:09:13 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Resettozero

He gonna be rarin’ up; tryin’ to get out of that thing: no pillow needed!

(Actually; I now try to flop him over on a couple of old lounge chair cushions. Sometimes he lands on them...)


72 posted on 11/25/2014 6:09:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
“once for all delivered to the Saints.”

OOPs!

There goes your Mary 'adoration' right out the window!

73 posted on 11/25/2014 6:10:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
Why would Christ have allowed his Church to wallow in the mire of falsehood and heresy for so long?

OOOps; yet another Protestant turned Catholic that fails to understand:


Matthew 13:24-30


Don't worry, Dave; Christ's 'church' is doing just as He said it would.

74 posted on 11/25/2014 6:12:29 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero

straw all over the place!


75 posted on 11/25/2014 6:14:08 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“Show the evidence; not other peoples claims to have seen it.”

Right, as if you would ever believe anything posted to you anyway.

“I get enough of that rigamarole from the ‘witnesses’ to the Mormon Golden Plates.”

Well, it’s irrelevant anyway since you already posted what you’re now demanding evidence for. Your own words convict you. If I post those words again, however, I’ll be gigged by the Rel Mod so that’s where it will have to stay.


76 posted on 11/25/2014 6:14:24 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Elsie

Your own words convict you anyway. Whatever you say now is irrelevant.


77 posted on 11/25/2014 6:15:17 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: .45 Long Colt
***Rick never spoke for Protestants because he has never been a Protestant. He was, and ostensibly is, an evangelical of the mushy, compromised, Message Bible, praise band, Jesusy love song, goat baptizing, navel-gazing, cheesy drama, short pep-talk self-improvement sermon, manmade church growth, loyalty oath, coffee and bagel bar, mega-church wing.***

What are you trying to say?</sarc>

78 posted on 11/25/2014 6:36:16 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a Gospel preacher like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

Trying to be subtle :)


79 posted on 11/25/2014 6:40:27 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: vladimir998

Thanks for the info. I will try to find that.


80 posted on 11/25/2014 7:11:24 AM PST by piusv
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