Right Here: 45 second mark.
I see that...Jesus died that we might live an abundant life, and to be a blessing to others. I can't be a big blessing to people if I'm poor and broke and depressed and I don't feel good about myself.."
Luke 9:58: And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.”
You have to be kidding me. Olsteen’s bible is his checkbook and his altar—the counting table.
$40 million
Osteen’s net worth is approximately $40 million, and he and his wife live in a $10.5 million mansion in River Oaks, Texas.
Matthew 19:21 American Standard Version
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23 And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 10:21American Standard Version
21 And Jesus looking upon him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24 And the disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
Luke 18:22American Standard Version
22 And when Jesus heard it, he said unto him, One thing thou lackest yet: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23 But when he heard these things, he became exceeding sorrowful; for he was very rich.
24 And Jesus seeing him said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
Yeah, Jesus was a billionaire! What a loser. Typical MegaChurch narcissist!
I have nothing against people being rich, it is just getting rich from the gospel is what I hate.
I think his Bible (at least I’m assuming he actually has one) is missing Philippians.
http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/6-38.htm
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=3+John+1%3A2&version=KJV
It’s the LORD’S Rolls Royce...
Just like Algore. He can’t preach the tenants of global warming, I mean climate change, without my gigantic mansion, G650, and convoy of air conditioned SUVs.
This guy oozes BS.
Why we have an 0steen thread on FR is beyond me. 0steen is on the wrong team. We might as well have media matters thread or a DU thread.
Yes, I guess Jesus could have done more good if he had had a TV show that brings in over $100K per week. (Sarcasm, not blasphemy)
No Francis of Assisi is he.
Joel Osteen - the white Reverend Ike.
I just cannot believe the greed oozing from this statement:
Pastor Joel Osteen to Oprah: “I Can’t Be A Big Blessing To People If I’m Poor & Broke”.
I had heard that, in the midst of troubles, folks that ‘had it together’ were always thought of, as being someone to emulate, cash not withstanding, for the peace of mind and spirit they possessed.
So, Joel, if y’all be poor, boy, don’t that mean that you’se got nothing to git you off the path, as a distraction? I heard that y’all supposed to be dependent upon G-D if y’all are following the calling? Or does that mean that your WIFE ain’t gonna like ya, cuz SHE don’t got the money and her friends DO?
(Folks, it shows me that he has just put his cash first, and his beliefs, second.)
People seem to forget that Jesus was a ‘trust-fund’ baby. When he was born kings came to visit and brought gifts. If you go a bit further back in the bible, you can see the types of gifts that kings gave to each other. Talk about extravagant! In our simple story of the birth of Jesus, we use 3 wise men with small gifts. In the end we don’t know the number or volume of the gifts. But we do know ‘Dad’ was taking care of Jesus’ family. Remember, Joseph had to take his family to Egypt to escape a tyrants rampage against his son.
And at the end of his life, the guards drew lots for the robe owned by Jesus because it was too valuable.
I do believe that poverty is a current lie of the enemy against the church - just as much of a lie as prosperity. Much of the prosperity message is so good - sowing seeds, being good stewards, curses being broken, being a financial blessing (the topic of this thread). The bible says that the wealth of the wicked is stored up for God’s people.
As usual, the truth lies somewhere between the mis-characterized representations each side gives to the other. Some err on the side of poverty, others on the side of wealth. Men like Dave Ramsey add wisdom to their faith, and none fault him. He is doing what a good pastor does - prepares/equips people for the work given to us.
"God gives you the power to make wealth" (Deut8:18)
"The Lord makes poor and rich" (1 Sam.2:7)
"riches and honor come from you" (1Chr.29:12)
"wealth and riches are in the house of the man who fears the Lord (Ps.112:3)
"I will give you riches and honor" (2 Chr.1:2)
"God gave Hezekiah great wealth" (2 Chr.32:29)
"a man to whom God has given wealth" (Eccles. 5:19;6:2)
"wisdom gives riches and honor(Prov.3:16)
"riches and honor are with me" (Prov8:18)
"wisdom fills the treasuries of those who love her" (Prov.8:21)
"the crown of the wise is their riches" (Prov.14:24)
"by your wisdom you have acquired wealth(Ezek. 28:4)
Why would the Lord say in Malachi 3 that if you help with the poor (fill his storehouse) that He would “pour down an overflowing blessing, pressed down, shaken together...”?
**I think the point is to sacrifice early in life where we are tried with hardships; then later in life one becomes blessed with wealth.
Osteen is running a Billion dollar empire;would all you Republicans deny a CEO one or two percent of the wealth? The guy works as hard as any CEO, any he’s honest about not being a divinity school graduate.
He’s not fire and brimstone but he includes Jesus in his messages. This country needs all the help it can get imo. Didn’t Jesus say anyone who is not against us is for us? My two cents.
This man is sick. Very sick.
flush this punk
Some of the Christians who have been the biggest blessing to me are in terrible shape financially.
Their blessing to me had absolutely ZERO to do with money. Not one cent.
It’s who they are and what they’ve done. Not what they have.
If Osteen thinks that he can be a blessing to others because he’s rich, the only way that could happen is if he was giving his money away.
I wonder what his IRS tax returns look like.
Wow! I guess we know what makes him happy. He would be depressed if he was poor and broke? I suppose we can only say "he has his reward". My joy is found in Jesus not money.