Posted on 11/03/2014 11:14:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
So you don't care if LGBT activists have bonded with mega church pastors in the Southern Baptist Convention, you just care that a Catholic posted about it ? I would have thought Baptists would care more about the issue. Did I mistake you for a Baptist ?
he didn't pull his punches..
he would be what the worlds call “judgmental” today.
He was a voice crying in the wilderness. ..
And while Herod did listen...Herod was weak
Because it was his wife that hated John..and had Herod kill him.
The church must speak the truth to prepare the way just as john did.. even if that means becoming a voice crying in the wilderness
Homosexuality is not incompatible with Christianity.
Really? I always understood that Christians followed the Word of God.
The word "orientation" implies that it's not a choice. Like it's just something that one naturally gravitates toward.
I have no Idea but I like that. I do not know what happened to him after that. I do not understand how he sat for years listening to our minister and still told his new church that. He sure was taught better. I have been sick since 2008 with one thing or another. Am having eye surgery Friday to repair muscles in my right eye. Had all pre-op tests including an EKG done today. My surgeon told me she would have to remove my eye for the surgery and, like I told friends, I could have done without knowing that. She did say my brain MRI showed I have a brain and nothing is wrong with it! I am more nervous about this than any previous surgery. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired and nauseated all the time from double vision. : (
I’ll take that as a yes, I mistook you for a Baptist. I don’t think the rapproachment between the LGBT activists and some of these pastors is going to sit well in the more conservative churches of the convention. Of course, if the new model of attracting and retaining younger members means moderating about homosexual issues I think many of the mega church pastors will follow the attendance and money when deciding what stands to take.
When the SBC leaves the Bible, I leave the SBC.
“Hating the sin, but loving the sinner” does not mean not saying that the sin is a sin.
It that hurts their tender feelings, well, I’ve had my feelings hurt over the years, but I survived it and so will they.
No, that is not what it means. It means each church controls their own destiny. Of course, there are guidelines each must stand for before becoming Southern Baptist. That is why there are state conventions and a national convention. Some churches are stripped of the name.
Looks like some wolves have made it into leadership positions in the church. Next will they tell heterosexuals to continue in sin as well no need to repent.
What does Love all sinners. Ask questions later. mean?
Desert Rhino insists that there's no higher authority than the individual congregation, to define what "Baptist" means.
MamaB tells me that there are guidelines, and that the state and national conventions can strip a church of the name "Baptist".
I'm not sure how the convention could make it stick ... the loathsome toads at Westboro seem to get away with calling themselves "Baptist".
Oh, well ... I'm sure Baptists will manage to sort it out.
CCC paragraph 2358: The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial.
The word "orientation" means, as you know, to be turned in a particular direction. The homosexual tendency is a matter of having an objectively disordered oientation.
Not the Catholic Church. Not most Baptists either, I reckon.
There are no such things. It is a contradiction in terms. To be LGBT is to deny Christ (The bible clearly and blatantly condemns homosexuality in all it's forms). How can one deny Christ and yet claim to be a follower of Him?
Then there's such a thing as a "bidden" thought: one which one does not resist, or which one welcomes, calls to mind, or which one dwells upon, or settles into as a lustful fantasy, or worse yet, a plan. This is a sin: a sin of intended lustful thoughts. Any action consequent to it, like masturbation, is also a sin.
The first, inadvertent temptation, is not a sin. Scripture says Jesus was tempted in every way as we are are, but without sin.
Amen.
Yu say that like it;s a bad thing!
Now look, Alex, I obviously did not post this in order to disparage Baptists. It is wrong to intentionally give offense; but it is also wrong to take offense where none was intended.
I would say we should pray for our churches and for each other, since we are together facing challenges of the most serious kind. I wish nothing but peace and good to the Baptists, whom I admire and in fact whom I married into.
I’m all for St. John the Baptist. Seriously.
I'll disagree slightly. To be oriented means to be turned in the correct direction, or to be correctly related to one's surroundings.
In the physical realm, the oriented person knows which way is Up, and which way is East. One who cannot correctly identify the gravitational vector, or who is uncertain as to where the sun will rise, or the location of Polaris, is properly said to be DISoriented. In my youth, I was entirely too often disoriented.
Likewise, normal sexual desire for an adult of the opposite sex is orientation. Homosexual desires, for example, are definitely DISoriented.
That passage from the Roman Catholic catechism makes my point, actually, and I like the phrase "objectively disordered".
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