That's really being very catholic. They have a very bad habit of doing that.
Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Not Catholics...
What MUST we do...
Most of what they do and believe goes back to Nimrod.
that’s so ridiculous.
I understand why you want to muddy the water; but your chosen religion has not explained WHY it's TRADITIONS are essential; and that the BIBLE you guys put together is NOT sufficient information to save human souls from the fires of Hell.
“With Fronds Like These, Who Needs Anemones?”
you have a great imagination
The RC assertion is, as I understand it, that there is, or at least was, a body of knowledge that has different content but equal authority to canonical Scripture. Supposedly this alternate stream of data was orally transmitted, and only surfaces in much later writings, if at all.
It’s hard to know how this could be proved. The problem is, attribution an origin preceding its being written down is impossible, as there are no live witnesses who can say, “yes, so and so taught such and such.”. Which means we are stuck with the written record as the only objective way to determine the content of said tradition. And nothing in the written record suggests novelties such as the Assumption of Mary or transubstantiation, until much later. Projecting that backward into an undocumented oral tradition only proves the desire to prove the novelty. It doesn’t actually prove the novelty isn’t novel.
So I think ultimately, you’d have to prove three things. First, that some orally transmitted beliefs or practices existed when you say they did, from the beginning. Second, you’d have to show they were different from the enscripturated traditions. Third, you’d have to show these traditions to be God-breathed, having direct authority of divine inspiration, in order to treat them as equal to Scripture.
It is unlikely you can show any of this, because the bus never gets out of the station. How do you document the actual content of an unrecorded oral tradition? At some point it must be written down, and once that happens, it is now a writing, and a writing not canonized as Scripture, no matter what it contains, is necessarily inferior authority, unless one rescues it with circular reasoning, I.e., the undocumented tradition gives the Roman See infallible, monarchical authority, and the infallible, monarchical authority asserts the validity of the undocumented tradition. This becomes a blank check in which Rome can write itself any new dogma it needs, without accountability to the written word of God. Doctrinal development, as cardinal newmann framed it. Which infinite circle of logic is of course both unnecessary and untenable.
Peace,
SR
At what date; approximately?
I will pray for you.
Thank you for this thoughtful reply. This is an excellent post. It deserves an equally well-reasoned reply in return.
Perhaps I will do so this weekend when I am taking a much needed vacation this weekend, and I am hopefully sipping a nice adult beverage on the private beach that is my destination. I make no promises however, I hope to spend the majority of my time with my lovely wife and parents.
All Christians here (Catholic and non) please pray my flight will be safe.
Have a nice weekend!
God bless,
You might wish it’s ridiculous but the Catholic Church admits it took from paganism which virtually all of leads back to Babylon and Nimrod.
Well done! It really results in faith in fallible man over infallible scripture.
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